The reason I refuse to send in a ticket is because
1: It will not get answered by one of the three people above
2: It will not be answered fully if not by one of the three people above
3: It will not be posted here, on the forum, for everyone to see the answer, regardless of what it may be.
The Debate: Mini Valks can or cannot be competed for.
Definition of competition:
Opposing players attempting to do whatever possible in order to obtain loot rights to the monster. Competition is not to be confused with Skill abuse.
Definition of loot rights:
The ability to obtain the loot before another player
Things that factor into obtaining loot rights: Taking damage from and dealing damage to the monster, and obtaining the first hit. If you are dead when the monster dies and would have had loot rights, the next in line gets them.
Definition of Skill abuse:
Anything intentionally done to prevent the opposing competitor from being able to deal damage to the monster.
Examples of this are Pnuemas to block Acid Bomb, Safety Wall for Gfist, Healing the monster, And many other tricks too numerous to list.
1: Competition is only for MvPs
2: Mini Valks are not MvPs
I'm kinda tired and think that is it. Let me know if I missed something and I will gladly add it.
1: 100 Valhalla's Flower are required to make the God item Brynhild.
1.1: Valhalla's Flower can only be obtained (Excluding buying from Players) from:
1.11: Valk Randgris (8 Hour Spawn)
1.12: Mini valk (2 Spawns every 1.5-2 Hours)
1.13: Endless Tower Mini Valks (1 Per Instance)
1.14: Endless Tower Mini Valk set 1 (5 Per Instance)
1.15: Endless Tower Mini Valk set 2 (1 in 7 chance for 5 Per Instance)
1.26: Endless tower has a Four day Cooldown, and requires a group to complete efficiently, making this not a viable way to obtain Valhalla's Flower
2: If you are able to compete and successfully obtain loot rights, you deserve the loot.
3: Mini Valks are a Higher Tier than Mini Bosses
3.1: Much harder to kill (Comparative to other mini bosses.)
3.2: Value of items (Stated above)
3.3: Rare Spawn items need to make a God Item
4: God items are to be competed for in order to be made. This is why WoE exists, and is what the game revolves around. Brynhild is a god item, is no different, and is not exempt. There is no logic or reason behind obtaining ownership of these monsters simply because you walked onto the screen first. If you are able to be beaten in getting loot rights, which were created with the sole purpose of settling disputes such as this, then you do not, by the mechanics of the game, deserve the chance at getting the items from it during that kill. You were already given a major advantage by getting the first hit (Has the most priority in deciding the loot rights), you have had more time than the copetition to deal damage. If you do not obtain the loot rights, it is because you did not do enough damage in order deserve them more than your competitor. You have equal opportunity, as does your competition, to try again with the next spawn.
This is all I can think of at the moment, my mind is on other things IRL Related.
If something in this post is against the rules, please inform me with a link to the rule (In a post/list by a GM/CM) so that I may remove it without this topic being censored a fourth time. I fully intend to press this issue until it is resolved by one of the three people mentioned, on this forum, for all to see.
For those wondering, this took about 30 minutes to write. I went to college.
Edited by shado, 11 February 2012 - 03:19 AM.