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#26 Akshaysanwal

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Posted 21 March 2012 - 03:55 AM

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Posted 21 March 2012 - 03:55 AM

+1. I couldn't agree more. This will make WoE much more interesting. Some ppl just die to my skills (which are not supposed to be 1HKO skill). I'm often confused whether they are under-geared or don't know how to play their class :ani_swt3:


Uuuuuhhh.... so you WANT everyone to have high + weapons that one shot everyone?

Defence doesn't scale as much as offense in regards to upgrades.

edit: don't spout skill and experience nonsense. It doesn't apply to renewal. Doing 100k+ fists in WoE, or 40k GoH it all becomes unlivable as the weapons become bigger than they are now.

Edited by Xellie, 21 March 2012 - 03:57 AM.

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#28 Pandapoop

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Posted 21 March 2012 - 04:04 AM

To everybody doing the whole "You can get a +10 with 7500 Kaf Points on average.." people need to realized that the +10 is actually a "Free" side-effect of the whole groove pack. You still get all the groove pack contents, so it's not really 300m-400m for a +10. It's probably something like 150m after you take the value of the stuff inside those grooves (50 groove boxes).

And to the people complaining about why this happened only now - it's quite obvious. It's because none of us actually pushed to buy the last Groove. So they did this to make us buy.
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Posted 21 March 2012 - 04:12 AM

I think most people just have a problem with "Oh hey, that bastard just joined 1 month ago and he also has X amount of +12 items? Hell no!" I know I would feel that way.... :P
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Posted 21 March 2012 - 04:15 AM

To everybody doing the whole "You can get a +10 with 7500 Kaf Points on average.." people need to realized that the +10 is actually a "Free" side-effect of the whole groove pack. You still get all the groove pack contents, so it's not really 300m-400m for a +10. It's probably something like 150m after you take the value of the stuff inside those grooves (50 groove boxes).

And to the people complaining about why this happened only now - it's quite obvious. It's because none of us actually pushed to buy the last Groove. So they did this to make us buy.


ahahaaha.

The whole arguement is pointless, people who wanna spend kp on getting +10s already do it with HD/enriched hammer anyway. point for point, it's cheaper to use enriched/HD with enriched hammer. So anyone who falls for that just to buy the box is just buying into a smart marketing ploy.

I'll buy it for the medals tho!
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Posted 21 March 2012 - 04:18 AM

Exactly, enriched - HD is way cheaper. :/
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Posted 21 March 2012 - 04:21 AM

ahahaaha.

The whole arguement is pointless, people who wanna spend kp on getting +10s already do it with HD/enriched hammer anyway. point for point, it's cheaper to use enriched/HD with enriched hammer. So anyone who falls for that just to buy the box is just buying into a smart marketing ploy.

I'll buy it for the medals tho!



Oh yeah I meant that - the over-all value for the medals counted...

To be honest it's basically the boxes screaming "Hey want a 150? $300 and it's yours - plus the certs to bring all your WoE gears up to +10)"

If people managed to sell the certs and desockets tho, on top of the medals for xp, on top of the +10 certs.. it is a pretty sweet deal compared to every other groove box that came out.
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Posted 21 March 2012 - 04:23 AM

This is why they call this game "Ragnarok"
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Posted 21 March 2012 - 04:24 AM

Oh yeah I meant that - the over-all value for the medals counted...

To be honest it's basically the boxes screaming "Hey want a 150? $300 and it's yours - plus the certs to bring all your WoE gears up to +10)"

If people managed to sell the certs and desockets tho, on top of the medals for xp, on top of the +10 certs.. it is a pretty sweet deal compared to every other groove box that came out.


the problem is, that all those items will become devalued on market, it's only worth to buy them for personal use imo.

because ~~~~~~~~EVERYONE~~~~~~~~~~ is going to do it.
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Posted 21 March 2012 - 05:18 AM

Right now THOSE +10 certs will not really devaluate anything because it's more expensive than using HD's / Enriched.

Once they get flooded then yes +10 items value will drop.
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Posted 21 March 2012 - 05:19 AM

I wasnt talking about +10 gear, that exists and floods in anyway.

What I was talking about was the desocketer and the certs themselves.
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Posted 21 March 2012 - 05:33 AM

Remember when being the first player to reach level 99 got you +1 to an item?
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Posted 21 March 2012 - 06:28 AM

+10 Safe Certs would have been very helpful and valuable when Enriched didn't exist.....
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Posted 21 March 2012 - 06:29 AM

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Posted 21 March 2012 - 06:33 AM

+10 Safe Certs would have been very helpful and valuable when Enriched didn't exist.....


If they had done that :(
But apparently this game economy is just down the drain. Within a while, +10 Certs will be cheap and +11 Weapon will be the new +9 :\
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Posted 21 March 2012 - 06:33 AM

pops more popcorn and watches...


*grabs a folding chair and sits besides you munching some Orville Redenbacher*
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Posted 21 March 2012 - 06:48 AM

This will trigger more deflation by discouraging people to hold gears outside personal use. Oh well, I'm sticking to holding zenies and if I buy something to sell, it should be in a short period.
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Posted 21 March 2012 - 07:11 AM

I personally thought the 150 prize medals per box was worse than the +10 certs. People are going to be upset when they start using them lol. On average it took me around 10 attempts to +10 with enriched hammer. A couple of times it took closer to 20 attempts from +9 to +10. Somebody posted on the forum that it took them more than 50 attempts lol. Right now its still cheaper to probably just upgrade with Enriched Hammer. A big baller might buy $100 worth of groovys just for the medals and +10 certs. I am tempted but I am starting to actually get a little tired of spending so much cash on a game.

The medals are going to make a lot of people 3rd level characters really fast. Some people around 135 will 150 over the next week or so. They could do that via the turn in but now they don't even have to do that.

The funny thing is that this was probably the worst Groovy/Lucky box to date and is now, in my opinion, the best box Gravity has ever dropped. Not only did they make a +10 cert but they made medals tradeable. I can trade these chocolate packs to whatever character i want. Medals have never been tradeable.

We should all thank everybodies pal Droyd!!! He was the only one brave enough to post how bad the Groovy packs were. Everybody thought they sucked but didn't post.

Edited by DarkDan, 21 March 2012 - 07:36 AM.

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Posted 21 March 2012 - 07:19 AM

I saw this coming, because it's on kRO, so it's something offi.
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Posted 21 March 2012 - 07:41 AM

*grabs a folding chair and sits besides you munching some Orville Redenbacher*

hands you a soda....this gonna be good hehe.
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Posted 21 March 2012 - 08:05 AM

Remember. You're special. Just like everyone else.
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Posted 21 March 2012 - 08:06 AM

What kind of special are we talking about?
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Posted 21 March 2012 - 08:14 AM

Special like Special K
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Posted 21 March 2012 - 08:22 AM

Didn't know it goes so high. I only have +8. LOL. Damn I'm behind in the game compared to everyone else.
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Posted 21 March 2012 - 09:18 AM

Good way to destroy the game mechanics. Even more...
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