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[kwayan19]

this skill is really OP... against 5 artis on CD and we really slept the whole game... cant even move... any suggestions on this skill?

How about making duration shorter? or making aoe radius lesser.... slower cooldown

[Gojio]

Yeah, then increase the cooldown on grenades even more, remove all the passives in the 2nd job tree and replace the terror knight with a hello kitty summon.

Leave Artisans the way they are.

[DestinyDeoxys]

Ya, it bothers me a lot. Bourg's flame stun burst...Cleric's voltage storm...Artisan's hypno shot, it makes the game really boring when you can't move at all.

I feel like the Hypno shot skill as too much radius, I was really far away every time from the center of the hypno shot, but I still get slept. It looks like about 15-20m radius to me, which is too large if you ask me. 10m radius might be appropriate.

[johniscu]

Stop complaining stop playing arti you fail go back to what ever class you were playing before.


Sincerely, The arti's that matter

[kwayan19]

some more thoughtful unbiased opinions and comments are welcome here

@des yeah agree with you

[luciolle]

Yeah i also agree that the sleep should have it's aoe a bit reduced, although if it gets reduced, making both stunning nades on different cooldowns again would be fair then.

[kwayan19]

hello kitty summon is also good

[kumpiakot]

how about deleting BA as a job would be nice for everybody instead of complaining for your own benefit? ...first the nades (shared CD) hypno ( increased CD) has been nerfed...whats up with you guys? can you just fix your stat builds and fix up your gears instead of making poor BA's playable...

[johniscu]

i really dont know what to say but your worried about nerfing hypno but we can continue to get owned by raiders. Remember we (barti's) have huge disadvantages we cant decloak we are very easy to kill sleep is our only tool to get away with but i wouldnt expect a new b arti to understand this.

[kumpiakot]

i really dont know what to say but your worried about nerfing hypno but we can continue to get owned by raiders. Remember we (barti's) have huge disadvantages we cant decloak we are very easy to kill sleep is our only tool to get away with but i wouldnt expect a new b arti to understand this.

+1

[SirSlayer]

I don't understand why, when a class has or gets an effective skill, people all of a sudden cry OP. Ok so champs have OP skills, arti's have an OP skill, mages have an OP debuff skill, scouts (not quite sure), raiders have cloak which artis could consider that "OP", knights could be considered OP in their tanking abilities......smh.

Rather than complaining about how OP a skill is, learn with YOUR class how to beat that OP skill.

Edited by SirSlayer, 21 May 2012 - 12:28 PM.

[SirSlayer]

Ya, it bothers me a lot. Bourg's flame stun burst...Cleric's voltage storm...Artisan's hypno shot, <<<<

>>>> Sounds like good teamwork to me.

[Zjuu]

It would improve the game allot to reduce the radius on aoe-skills of all classes, mainly for the ranged hitting classes.

CD is just an aoe fest ;p

Edited by Zjuu, 21 May 2012 - 01:07 PM.

[Kermaperuna]

All of those skills are only OP when you combo them with another skills.

[Phish]

So much bias... Remember when Gun bourgs existed? Yeah, before Artisan's replaced them.

In all honesty the aoe stuns/sleep are powerful here (With the exception of Mage's Meteorite Flow).

Hypno Shot: 15m radius, 75% success, 10 second cooldown (damage is single target)

Voltage Storm: 11m radius, 60% success, 6 second cooldown.

Flame Stun Burst: 12m radius, 35% success, 8 second cooldown.


The myth known as skill balancing is supposed to be coming soon (or so we are told), and the problem with just nerfing said skills without compensating elsewhere, is that these classes don't really have many other useful skills.

I'd like to see in the future:

Hypno shot have a decreased radius, more grenades become useful for artisans.

Decrease duration of Flame Stun burst to 1 second, add another status effect to one of the other aoes/fix add damage bug for Launcher Bourg's.

Decrease duration of Voltage storm to 1 second, allow clerics to auto attack the enemy after casting. Make manawave more useful, plus add another useful skill for Battle Clerics.

[LoveU4ever]

Yeah, then increase the cooldown on grenades even more, remove all the passives in the 2nd job tree and replace the terror knight with a hello kitty summon.

Leave Artisans the way they are.

i agree with the Hello Kitty summon <3

Yeah, then increase the cooldown on grenades even more, remove all the passives in the 2nd job tree and replace the terror knight with a hello kitty summon.

Leave Artisans the way they are.

i agree with the Hello Kitty summon <3

[SirSlayer]

I think the only thing that should change about ANY range character, is that they shouldn't be able to shoot through walls. Scouts and arti's stand behind walls/buildings in CD press target enemy, and normal attack, and attack whomever is closest on the other side of the wall. That is the only thing about range characters I do not like.

[jerremy]

I think the only thing that should change about ANY range character, is that they shouldn't be able to shoot through walls. Scouts and arti's stand behind walls/buildings in CD press target enemy, and normal attack, and attack whomever is closest on the other side of the wall. That is the only thing about range characters I do not like.

Lol I've tried that with my crossbow knight before, but she couldn't target anyone and if she could they were out of range :/

[captainpilyo]

BA's sleep is not OP. but i suggest when making a group, limit each class that can join a group to three. i joined wars when a group created 5 BA's and a cleric. how the hell can we stop that? one sleep at a time is so OP. not the sleep itself. and on top of that. one time, their formed group inside was 5 BA's, 4 cleric, 2 champs. was really fun.

[jerremy]

BA's sleep is not OP. but i suggest when making a group, limit each class that can join a group to three. i joined wars when a group created 5 BA's and a cleric. how the hell can we stop that? one sleep at a time is so OP. not the sleep itself. and on top of that. one time, their formed group inside was 5 BA's, 4 cleric, 2 champs. was really fun.

It could work out to prevent too much aoe sleep and aoe stun, but since there isn't enough diversity among players (90% is cleric, champ, BA or raider), a lot of people would be inable to join the same game, making it nearly impossible on draco (not sure about leo since i don't play there) to start a game.

[SirSlayer]

Lol I've tried that with my crossbow knight before, but she couldn't target anyone and if she could they were out of range :/

I hope you aren't implying that it doesn't work, cause it happens quite often. I've sat and watched them do this for over half a game of CD before.

[captainpilyo]

It could work out to prevent too much aoe sleep and aoe stun, but since there isn't enough diversity among players (90% is cleric, champ, BA or raider), a lot of people would be inable to join the same game, making it nearly impossible on draco (not sure about leo since i don't play there) to start a game.

you misunderstood me, i think.what i mean is limiting the classes in a group. not in the GROUP ARENA itself. for example, you cant invite another arti when you're group already has three.

[ariza08]

Change the status effect of hyno shot, instead of sleep make it a negative buff or instead of aoe make it a single attack only.

[kumpiakot]

how about just fixing the mute glitch thats been infesting GA?that would really help a lot...imagine we try to debuff ourselves in the mid of the war by riding a cart just to remove the glitch mute but it still stays the only solution to that is to wait for someone to aoe/hit you with skills or let em beat you to death

[Cristal]

i really dont know what to say but your worried about nerfing hypno but we can continue to get owned by raiders. Remember we (barti's) have huge disadvantages we cant decloak we are very easy to kill sleep is our only tool to get away with but i wouldnt expect a new b arti to understand this.

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