Update 16.2

the current CC the modifier endowed twice

 

do test for me, use neutral Bash to monster with 200% weakness to Holy, record the damage

then do Holy Bash , record it also

 

now , use neutral CC to that, record the damage

then Holy CC, also record

upload your samples here

 

 

Always test with full gear. dont forget

anyone want to be  a volunteer to test ?

so really the only nerf is that you cant endow iron cannon balls (neutral) any more.

so I wonder if they will implement wind, water, fire, and earth cannon balls? how are we suppose to have fun now lol

Can you elaborate on no.3
 
I tried Neutral Crimson with Holy Cannonballs, Holy Crimson with Iron Cannoballs and Holy Crimson with Holy Cannonballs.
 
Neutral/Holy with Holy Cannonballs does the exact same damage.
Holy Crimson with neutral Cannonballs does less damage than using Holy cannonballs.
 
Tested with OGH undead.

There you go, didn't noticed anything different from aspersio + holy balls, and neutral + aspersio still sucks.

but where is the Bash?? 

okay, incomplete test but you see, 

i focused one monster, i assume Dark Priest in Guild Dungeon has 200% weakness to Holy

see your damage

your damage with Neutral weapon Iron CannonBall = 35k <-- 16.2 damage with converters later ( forced to Neutral )

your damage with Aspersio ( Holy weapon ) Iron CannonBall = 42kish <----16.2  your nerfed damage similar with this later.

your damage with Neutral weapon Holy CannonBall = 95k <-- this is the part where the eatk and watk endowed twice

the only reason why i asked you to test Bash

cause Bash is normal skill, if you hit 30k, hitting a monster with 200% elemental weakness is becoming 60k

you will see the different between CC and Bash

Edited by Silvianna, 20 March 2018 - 05:17 PM.

Can you elaborate on no.3

I tried Neutral Crimson with Holy Cannonballs, Holy Crimson with Iron Cannoballs and Holy Crimson with Holy Cannonballs.

Neutral/Holy with Holy Cannonballs does the exact same damage.
Holy Crimson with neutral Cannonballs does less damage than using Holy cannonballs.

Tested with OGH undead.

anyone want to be  a volunteer to test ?

Here you go.

Using Aspersio with Iron Cannonballs only makes it pseudo Holy, hence dealing less damage that actually using Holy cannonballs.

Holy weapon/Holy cannonballs - 40k dmg

Holy weapon/Iron Cannoballs -  28k dmg

Neutral weapon/Holy cannonballs - 40k dmg

If I need to retest with an actual Holy Crimson I probably need to wait for a friend to come only since I no longer have a Holy Crimson.

PS: I thought the double endow only works with Mado Mechanic and not Gene. If you endow holy/fire and holy cannonball you definitely deal 4x dmg as compared 2x when you use endow holy/iron balls or neutral weapon/holy cannonballs only.

Edited by yamasakai90, 20 March 2018 - 05:24 PM.

test with full gears, dear yamu

and then it depends on how high your eatk and watk are,

because they are endowed twice this happens

the fix will nerf your damage to Shadow,  Holy and Ghost monsters. 

Same story 35k vs 50k+. Unless you want me to test with FAW :')

I think a better way to put is that the skill uses the multiplier twice when calculating elemental damage with elemental cannon balls, but aspersio/holy crimson have nothing to do with it.

I can confirm Mado's Arm cannon when using :

1. Iron ball and neutral weapon would be 20k

2. Iron ball and holy weapon would be 40k

3. Holy ball and holy weapon would be 80k.

It definitely affects Arm Cannon, but I'm really not sure about Cart Cannon.

Same story 35k vs 50k+. Unless you want me to test with FAW :')

 

 

Holy 200% dear yamu, zombie 150%

go to glast heim and you can find Wraith 

Aspersio works on mech only, it will get fixed eventually

Zayaan was correcting my post regarding that part,

so the better way to explain Geneticist's CC weird modifier is

eatk and watk endowed twice.

Now, after you all test on CC

can someone go to Glast Heim with their madogear

and kill wraith. i expect you to do these :

Neutral Arm Cannon with Neutral Cannonball

Neutral weapon Arm Cannon with Holy Cannonball

Holy weapon Arm Cannon with Holy Cannonball

pls post it here,

i can only play RO on weekend , cant for me

Edited by Silvianna, 20 March 2018 - 05:40 PM.

I can confirm Mado's Arm cannon when using :

1. Iron ball and neutral weapon would be 20k
2. Iron ball and holy weapon would be 40k
3. Holy ball and holy weapon would be 80k.

It definitely affects Arm Cannon, but I'm really not sure about Cart Cannon.

Edited by Sigma1, 20 March 2018 - 05:42 PM.

yeah thats why i asked to test it 

and i bet the result / the way it calculates final damage will  be same.

come come test your CC and AC on wraith in GH. do those tests.

yeah thats why i asked to test it 

and i bet the result / the way it calculates final damage will  be same.

 

come come test your CC and AC on wraith in GH. do those tests.

You don't need to though :I

 

 

Spoiler

New cards

 

 

 

Humanoid Chimera Card

Hit + 5.

If base level is 90 or higher, adds an additional Hit + 10.

When equipped with Material Chimera Card, reduce delay after skills by 3%.

Compounded on : Accessory

Prefix : Intensive

 

 

 

Material Chimera Card

Flee + 10.

If base level is 90 or higher, adds an additional Flee + 10.

Compounded on : Accessory

Prefix : Deft

 

looks like i found my cards for my doram for woe and pvp purposes

Now, after you all test on CC

 

can someone go to Glast Heim with their madogear

and kill wraith. i expect you to do these :

 

Neutral Arm Cannon with Neutral Cannonball

Neutral weapon Arm Cannon with Holy Cannonball

Holy weapon Arm Cannon with Holy Cannonball

 

pls post it here,

i can only play RO on weekend , cant for me

Last one

Gene on Wraith

Neutral/Holy with Holy cannoballs = 80k

Holy with Iron Cannoballs = 40k

Mado - Gosh I haven't touch her since forever.

Holy with Holy cannonballs - 40k

Holy with Neutral Cannonballs - 20k

Neutral with Holy Cannonballs - 20k 

As you can see the 4x holy works with Mado Arm cannon. 40k

Where else holy endow + neutral or neutral + holy cannonballs only deals 20k damage

Normal Arm cannon with neutral would just deal about 10k roughly.

with Abyss Dress,

the nerfed part in 16.2 will be like that , the 2nd picture 260kish  if you are using Holy, Shadow, Ghost ball

and the normal CC with converters will not work anymore, so it will be like the 1st picture,  forced to Neutral.

btw i maybe the one who believe Sapphire Wrist is a kinda low tier item for gene,

so i dont recommend to use that. i didnt get the hype from the beginning 

Edited by Silvianna, 20 March 2018 - 08:38 PM.

 

with Abyss Dress,

the nerfed part in 16.2 will be like that , the 2nd picture 260kish  if you are using Holy, Shadow, Ghost ball

and the normal CC with converters will not work anymore, so it will be like the 1st picture,  forced to Neutral.

 

btw i maybe the one who believe Sapphire Wrist is a kinda low tier item for gene,

so i dont recommend to use that. i didnt get the hype from the beginning 

160k is still so high. They need to nerf CC! 

but but  thats with abyss dress, if you go with your RG, you will hit 500k with VP 

sum it up, what Blackcross said
 

its weird to me that its CC getting nerfed instead of acid bomb. Sure both skills are OP and strong, but acid bomb has never left my mind as an undeservedly OP skill for second class, even way more powerful than so many third classes' main skills.
 
Cart cannon isn't so OP for a third class skill in comparison- its hella good yes, but nothing like acid bomb. No idea what goes into the devs' minds.

why dont they nerf Acid Bomb,?
cart cannon is so poor, i mean they gave us Bio 5 Hat to increase the damage
now they nerf it ?
kRO is weird sometimes. 

Edited by Silvianna, 20 March 2018 - 08:50 PM.

sum it up, what Blackcross said


why dont they nerf Acid Bomb,?
cart cannon is so poor, i mean they gave us Bio 5 Hat to increase the damage
now they nerf it ?
kRO is weird sometimes.

  expensive huh