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[Morumasa]

That was fixed earlier, try again.

ahh yeah working fine now c: hehe
Leooooo I think you should focus 1st on class balance, if you do the skill balance, people will buy more stat and skill resets (alot) which means you will gain more moneyyyy :x just saying

[Graziano]

The missing materials have been fixed (v459)

If I avoided everything that could make someone upset, we would never make changes, ever. Any change runs the risk of someone not liking it, no matter the reason. Decisions are made in the best interest of weighing out the pros and cons in respect to the goals aimed to be achieve by the change.

It doesn't make me happy to upset players in our community, because I value each and every one of you. You make, what ROSE is, special.

I'm not in a position to speak about the finances of the company. But I know my job. It has many facets and responsibilities. One of which is to ensure ROSE does well by generating enough revenue month to month, year to year. But you shouldn't assume to think we're making money hand over fist either. Valentines is over, the items are off the Item Mall (not the Box of Enchanted Stones yet, that's next week) but that isn't going to last a full year.

I dont see why in any way anyone would have complained if you guys didn't put a timer on crystal defenders.
thats dodging a bullet without being fired at you

[Plantenbak]

ahh yeah working fine now c: hehe
Leooooo I think you should focus 1st on class balance, if you do the skill balance, people will buy more stat and skill resets (alot) which means you will gain more moneyyyy :x just saying

Working fine? I still can't login..

[roselyfireburn]

it's telling me server is under maintanance still

[NamirBarades]

The missing materials have been fixed (v459)

If I avoided everything that could make someone upset, we would never make changes, ever. Any change runs the risk of someone not liking it, no matter the reason. Decisions are made in the best interest of weighing out the pros and cons in respect to the goals aimed to be achieve by the change.

Did you factor in the in-game economy into your pro/con list there..Because this little addition of yours is only going to strain the economy even further. Right now(After the duping and zuly exploit) the honor gear went from 200-250m to 350m in a matter of weeks. Roughly a 50% increase in those prices.. So now you're making it harder for people who are not already full geared to buy gear...(Around 3-4b if you're buying it already refined and gemmed..and at the 100m/100im rate that seems to be the new trend..) If I bought im to gear a character.. you're looking at hundreds of dollars in im..Great for you, but not for the starting player who does not want to sink that much into the game yet and can't farm to make zuly---And they can't even get too many honor points from pvp instances because they have to wait an hour to play...and they have no gear to start with so are only making 5-10 points MAX per round---and that's under the assumption they are a darn good player from the get go.

[Morumasa]

Working fine? I still can't login..

oh no i meant about the patch thingy, not that im in the game lol

[Gojio]

I know the more money you can get the better Leo, it's a business and it's obvious, I'd have the same purposes if I were you.

But some things...are just not worth it. A small extra revenue in exchange for a lot of irritated players. You have to make money, yes, but the happier the players are the more willing to support the game they are, don't forget this small, but fundamental detail.

[Plantenbak]

Did you factor in the in-game economy into your pro/con list there..Because this little addition of yours is only going to strain the economy even further. Right now(After the duping and zuly exploit) the honor gear went from 200-250m to 350m in a matter of weeks. Roughly a 50% increase in those prices.. So now you're making it harder for people who are not already full geared to buy gear...(Around 3-4b if you're buying it already refined and gemmed..and at the 100m/100im rate that seems to be the new trend..) If I bought im to gear a character.. you're looking at hundreds of dollars in im..Great for you, but not for the starting player who does not want to sink that much into the game yet and can't farm to make zuly---And they can't even get too many honor points from pvp instances because they have to wait an hour to play...and they have no gear to start with so are only making 5-10 points MAX per round---and that's under the assumption they are a darn good player from the get go.

Before this update it was allready hard to get honor points. Sometimes you have to wait for hours before cd starts. Im afraid with this changes i can only play cd ones a day :X This way i will never get the honor gear i want..

oh no i meant about the patch thingy, not that im in the game lol

Sorry i thought you were in the game, misunderstanding

[roselyfireburn]

Help! it says server is under maintenance for me!

[NamirBarades]

Before this update it was allready hard to get honor points. Sometimes you have to wait for hours before cd starts. Im afraid with this changes i can only play cd ones a day :X This way i will never get the honor gear i want..

You can get the gear you want. Just sell im. 100/100 in leonis.. Only 30-40 dollars a set. You'll have it in no time... #sarcasim

[Castanho]

Loved.

Leonis, just answer me something;
Dragon.. We're gona fight with dragons???
we're gonna take then as a pet???
And if we're talking about dragons...

About the Firegon. Why don't we can have back the old damm LOLes giant dragons one??

Edited by Castanho, 26 February 2013 - 03:53 PM.

[tdotworld]

Without even getting into the ethical absurdity of such a drastic xp nerf without a server restart which leaves those who are already max lvl only further ahead of the players who aren't.This seems like an ill thought-out and thoroughly untested change to something as important as leveling and experience. A 2.5% increase per party level? Divided by the number of players in the party? So, at party level 50 you will recieve a bonus of 125% xp. Let's take a mob of roughly 50,000 xp. A solo player recieves that exact amount; whereas, a group will recieve a measly 18,750 xp. This means to even equal the amount of xp as soloing a group will need to kill at a rate of about 2 and 2/3rds faster. Now lets take into consideration that currently it is beneficial to have a full party of 6 people. Under this new and improved system the ideal situation is to group up a party to level 50 and abandon players who are unneaded. Player A has a 230 cleric so we dont need a cleric, player b has a 230 knight to sacri so we dont need that. Ok, lets get our champ and mage doing ae: now a 2 man lvl 50 party is finally making positive returns on partying (50k mob became 56250). This encourages partying? Don't make me laugh. If you want to nerf leveling to force people to buy xp medals, fine, but don't hide under the guise of somehow improving gameplay or fixing a glitch (some 5+ years after the fact). This is a bad idea and worse execution.

[100000149261543]

Bug Fixes

• Corrected issue that caused client to crash randomly when opening inventory.
• Corrected issue which prevented Arua Interrogator and Hebarn Saboteur from respawning for Vizier's Key quest line.
• Disabled use of Power of Love and Cherry Berry items in Game Arena PvP zones.
• The following skills will no longer be removed by skill resets:
  
• Wayfinder Skill
• Vizier's Key
• Arua's Fate
• Hebarn's Fate

Too bad .. the unique reset skill already remove them ;(
Now i need to do the quests again ?

Edited by 100000149261543, 26 February 2013 - 03:58 PM.

[ZookeeperAndy]

Socially speaking, as an older casual player who recently came back to the game to enjoy the newer content, it's hard to enjoy if I am forced to wait for most of end-game game arena content, especially if I can only login for an hour or two at a time. A lot of my friends only play at certain times, and the enforced waiting puts a hamper in playing together, if a few are on the timer while I'm free. There are only so many things to chat about before you and your friends have an itch to fight something together. As with UW before it, playing in CD, especially with friends and clan members, builds comradarie and teamwork. The timer limits the times you can build those types of relationships where you can play in sync. I really hate having to schedule my time to play with friends; I'd like to just login and be able to play with them whenever.

Another side, economically speaking, I was able to purchase honor gears for one PVP character (special thanks to Meghan) even with these inflated prices, mostly because of old money. With Honor Points generated reduced because of the timer, I can only imagine how difficult it will be for anybody else to come back or even newer players to try to compete, at least in the pvp, side of things. These items, while rightfully so, should be hard to attain (either monetarily or through self obtained points), but the timers limit the effort that a player can put into acquiring such items. The player should be able to limit themselves in how hard they want to work at achieving their goals/gear, and not have the game itself limit it for them. I'm all for Gravity trying to generate more revenue, but I think there are better avenues to venture.

While I enjoyed the last week I've been back, this patch and the direction of the game in general, has me questioning how long I'd be staying this time around.

[Morumasa]

now that i think about it......... honor gears will be even more higher than before lol, and why can only premium play the new map that is lame...........
I do not, I repeat, I do not approve this message.

[kwayan19]

i saw it coming... releasing an reset thinggy in IM...

its all about the money money

[Polyy]

So you are pretty much making the game back P2P with all the new content only available for Premium accounts and without forgeting the "Time reset". If you are trying to make people to play the game, you are doing the oppositve, you are making them quit.
People that pay can actually enjoy the game at the fullest, while we (the ones that dont pay) can't enjoy.

[Mystiqueforce]

such a waste of CD map and draconis peak maps.. tsk tsk i bet 1-3 people will play it..

lets just all play in TG, there's no timer there.... but then again they might add timer there to enter... hmmm maybe next week??

/sarcasm

[Ballistic]

i allways wondered if they actually played the game or cared...now i know the answer.

[Plantenbak]

Quests from battle master are now only for DP not for CD any more..?

[VolunteerMod03]

I think if the Game Arena Timer Reset was offered from an NPC for a good amount of zulie, it would be a good way to drain zulie from the game economy, while also offering players a way to not have to wait an hour if they don't want premium.

[NamirBarades]

the icon..is huge. Why is it so big..why cant it just be included in the ga window..why does it have to be next to my map...fugly

[cyb3rhackdotr]

However, we are forced to think after the fact about how revenue can be generated so ROSE can continue to be supported by the development team's efforts. It is a necessary "evil" if we want to see ROSE continue in to the future..

Didn't enchanted boxes give you enough revenue?

Actually, instead of it giving revenue, it kills your F2P players. Think of this, the more you try to think of keeping the game alive money-wise, the more you lose players. In the end, ROSE will stop operation not because they lack funds but now they lose their players.

I think if the Game Arena Timer Reset was offered from an NPC for a good amount of zulie, it would be a good way to drain zulie from the game economy, while also offering players a way to not have to wait an hour if they don't want premium.

Premium should always be optional. But with this change, they want the small population of naROSE to go premium. Really, this game doesn't have enough population for CD to start. And now, the only thing that most end-game players do is also restricted, PvP.

If this doesn't revert or not changed in less than a week, I'm very certain you will lose a lot of players. What would they do if they don't quit? Farm? Farming is for PvP gears so what happens if you already have gears? TG? lol

Edited by cyb3rhackdotr, 26 February 2013 - 07:03 PM.

[Valakas]

With Ga being the only source of honor PTs and with all those previous bugs that managed to deny you more deserving entry from players , well these timers and IM isn't really going to help encourage them more than you guys thought it will.

I seriously fail to understand one thing. What is the purpose of having the clan function ? Is it just to see how creative your players can be in creating clan names ? Why not make clan war available? You could create 2 castles each on each if the cities for this purpose. Make it a once or twice a week activity where within a certain time and date , these places will be up for grab for clans. Kills made in clan wars should give honor points too and each castle successfully defended till the end should allow access into clan dungeons for lvling , questing , pvping , etc. Clan wars does force the market to be more competitive. Larger clans will end up forming new or use their existing corporate clans trying to edge each other economically. Want a zulie sink? put teletickets and akram scroll on npc and get ready to drain zulies out.

You guys should make things easier to obtain in be game rather than making them scarce. Making them hard to get will only leave the market in the hands of monopoly. Prices go up , phantom zulies come in , inflation occurs , the newbies quickly losses interest in your game, in game currency worth almost nothing , market dies , your game dies.

Do a quick survey check to your IM mall and see which items are least bought. I suggest you look at mounts first. After determining which , make them available in Npc and you now have another option of zulie draining. Craft able items should be left as it is because they are crafter's hard found materials and hard earned money. If you do a quick check though , you will find crafted items belong in a much stable market of their own.

Don't get me wrong , I am not asking u to open up IM for us to raid it. I myself is one of your loyal and biggest IM customer. this month alone more than 20k IM loaded. If you guys wanna make steady revenue from IM then please get your dev/designer team to start working !! What the hell are those karate gi costumes still doing there anyway???? Dyeing them in so many colours don't make them special and it showed how lazy your team is.

So called fixing the party leveling system is a failed thought. Why even bother fixing something that no one has ever complained about ? Wasting time , money and the opportunity cost that could have been better invested in fixing or implementing something better. I can't help but to agree with one of the respondent here that you guys are trying to force double xp medal sale. The low level and poorer ones will now be left behind. What is the point of the game then ? You are not providing equal and fair chances for everyone. Don't get me wrong as someone who complains a lot here. I have a few maxed char , my wealth in game is more than enough for me to enjoy whatever I want inside and I run a clan I can be very proud of. Your new systems all in all with no regards to gameplay , economics and of no concern at all to newbies's gameplay experience is outrageous. My clan house more newbies than I dare say anyone else's , simply because we chose to walk a path providing them shelter and helping them grow. Your party nerf system will destroy your gameplay flagship. Leveling was the only thing fun and satisfying thing to do

I think I've said too much. Thank you for reading. If you found me offensive, then gather a team of developers and take a day walk down the servers. create new chars and play for yourself. Then maybe you will start seeing things from our side

Val

[Sathanas]

So let me get this straight. Not only are the dungeons limited acess to players who DONT have premium (1 per day) but now there is a 1 hour wait period on it?


BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAA!!! FAILURE.

Once again you dont seem to get that a happy player base would be more than willing to fork over cash in the game if it was worth playing....Case in piont...one game I absolutely love (since you cant name other games that CRAP all over Rose financially without getting it deleted) I paid 50 bucks for a premium vehicle to play in. The crew? another 20 bucks....You also have to pay for the 3 paintjobs...so a grand total of about 80 bucks for a freakign virtual tank. I have about 5 premium vehicles so far....I DONT MIND THIS INVESTMENT.... ITS FUN! Its (they) are not overpowered, it makes decent money and its fun as hell to play. Rose, will NEVER see that kind of money from me ever again. Would you like to know WHY gravity? Its BORING! You keep snatching the rug out from under any semblance of fun or self sufficiency from this game. and replace it with "well if you want THIS, you gotta buy item mall points now..." You know what SCREW THAT. im gonna go paint all my crappy tanks and put my hard earned money in a game that DESERVES IT. not this shadow of a game from good times long since past...and im sure i dont speak for myself when i say this gravity. but you are running this title into the dirt. If you want some ideas on how to reverse this trend, we as your loyal players would be glad ti give you ideas that would increase your revenue, and make this game much more enjoyable at the same time...everyone would benefit...until then I think ill blow my paychecks on putting cat paws on all my tanks.


Oh btw, since you nerfed leveling you took away the absoulte LAST bit of enjoyment i had to do...max out all my toons...my friends have all since quit playing, and will really quit now with the reductions in the times they can do CW wars so...I no longer have anything keeping this game on my desktop....GG gravity.

~ Please do not name other NON warp portal/gravity games. Thank you.
~mod03

Edited by Sathanas, 27 February 2013 - 08:30 AM.