Fire Arms vs Wind Arms For Wizards
#51
Posted 04 June 2013 - 04:53 PM
#52
Posted 04 June 2013 - 04:59 PM
#53
Posted 04 June 2013 - 05:14 PM
#54
Posted 04 June 2013 - 05:17 PM
#55
Posted 04 June 2013 - 05:19 PM
#56
Posted 04 June 2013 - 05:27 PM
#57
Posted 04 June 2013 - 07:59 PM
Edited by Nirrado, 04 June 2013 - 08:01 PM.
#58
Posted 04 June 2013 - 08:08 PM
#59
Posted 04 June 2013 - 08:54 PM
#60
Posted 04 June 2013 - 09:09 PM
#61
Posted 04 June 2013 - 09:48 PM
#62
Posted 04 June 2013 - 10:01 PM
#63
Posted 05 June 2013 - 01:15 AM
and of course neither you not the other dpsers should switch to adds in your tests because the threat meter is not a dps meter and it says nothing about your overall dps (like adds, multidotting, etc) in the whole fight
Edited by elvenne, 05 June 2013 - 01:15 AM.
#64
Posted 05 June 2013 - 04:52 AM
Still with the same stats and fight duration a fire bolt wind arms build should do about 43,000 to the 59,000 you did in the video. I will post my new calculations along with the ones with your stats when I get home tonight.
#65
Posted 05 June 2013 - 12:08 PM
#66
Posted 05 June 2013 - 12:54 PM
Wait a minute... are you now saying that frigging colt bolt + thunderbolt has higher DPS than Wind Emblem + Fire Bolt?
Yes that was what I was saying before I fixed the errors in the calculation. Below are the new calculations that include GCD and 0.3 second casting latency with Nirrado's stats. I tweaked the latency and number of Cold Bolt and Fire Bolt casts until I was within the correct fight time.
Cold Bolt with Wind Arms 10% cast speed from equip, 1658 base MATK and 20% crit rate
0.35 second cast speed
with no haste takes 1.8 seconds until you can use the next cold bolt
1.8 - 0.15 (difference from haste) = 1.65
1 lightning bolts in 1.3 seconds
100 second fight (1min 40 seconds) 60 (100/1.65) cold bolt casts in 100 seconds
60 - 18 = 42 need to subtract enough cold bolts that we can add in lightning bolts without going over the time given
42 cold bolt casts
12 wind arms procs (rounded down so that it would fit in the time given)
24 double dmg lightning bolt casts
5 crit double dmg lightning bolts
19 non crit double dmg lightning bolts
8 cold bolt crits
34 non crit cold bolts
21421 non crit cold bolt dmg
10080 crit cold bolt dmg
13860 non crit lightning bolt dmg
7295 crit lightning bolt dmg
total dmg: 52656
Fire Bolt with Wind Arms 10% cast speed from equip, 1658 base MATK and 20% crit rate
0.7 second cast speed
fire bolt with no haste takes 2.3 seconds until you can use the next fire bolt
2.3 - 0.3 = 2.0 cast time with haste
1 fireball in 1.3 seconds
100 second fight (1min 40 seconds) 50 100/2.0 fire bolt casts in 100 seconds
50 - 7 = 43 need to subtract enough fire bolts that we can add in fireballs without going over the time given
43 + fireball casts gives us the exact same time taken as the Cold bolt test
43 fire bolt casts
8 fireball casts
35 non crit fire bolts
8 crit fire bolts
7 non crit fireballs
1 crit fireballs
28434 non crit fire bolt dmg
12998 crit fire bolt dmg
6499 non crit fireball dmg
1856 crit fireball dmg
2506 * 2 = 5012 fireball DOT dmg
total dmg: 54799
Edited by Xafir, 09 June 2013 - 03:46 AM.
#67
Posted 05 June 2013 - 01:26 PM
Edited by Xafir, 05 June 2013 - 01:27 PM.
#68
Posted 05 June 2013 - 03:16 PM
further, haste is asymptotic which means the more haste you have, the better additional haste will be.
taking into account these two factors, a real demonstrative test would have real world play PLUS different gear level assumptions.
at higher gear levels you can get upwards of 25% haste from gear, pop a pump it pill and it goes to 30%. 20% haste on top of that is better than 20% haste on top of 10% equip haste.
#69
Posted 05 June 2013 - 03:31 PM
Edited by Xafir, 05 June 2013 - 03:32 PM.
#70
Posted 05 June 2013 - 03:58 PM
#71
Posted 05 June 2013 - 03:59 PM
Edited by Xafir, 05 June 2013 - 04:23 PM.
#72
Posted 05 June 2013 - 05:08 PM
#73
Posted 05 June 2013 - 05:34 PM
Would Cold bolt + lightning bolt (taking full advantage of Wind Emblem) really outdps fire bolt + fire ball mastery?
I'd really like to know. Plus its easier to cast cold bolt & lightning bolt on the move~ so less dps loss from moving out of AoEs
#74
Posted 05 June 2013 - 05:40 PM
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Posted 05 June 2013 - 05:43 PM
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