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#76 HeIIraiser

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Posted 25 November 2013 - 09:07 AM

If this server became P2P...

At my point of view; I do not know if it will flourish or not. Looking at fairness and ethics, if this server is F2P and some companies or individual entities are making $ by selling zenny; basically they are making income. Reasonable amount should be invested or distributed back into the game so it can keep going.

I may be wrong, who knows.

 

I would definitely pay a yearly fee maybe 100$ a year or something like that, something "reasonable"

 

No high ball or low ball offers to what we have been accustomed to through this game. Just look at it this way, what other $ have people spent on countless of useless and obsolete things that they do not need, but only want? If people can shed out their money on other types of greed they have, why not spend money on this game?

 

Myself, I have learned that hobbies come with a hefty price. Hobbies are not always cheap, so you must "pay the price" for what you enjoy doing the most.

 

 


Edited by HeIIraiser, 25 November 2013 - 09:12 AM.

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#77 CornhoIio

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Posted 25 November 2013 - 09:11 PM

Make RO P2P again! :p_laugh:  Wait a minute, isnt it already P2P? :p_conf:


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Posted 25 November 2013 - 09:43 PM

Pretty much the big reason why Classic isn't doing so hot is because they require Magical Stone on 2nd class change, when it's basically impossible for 1st classers to gather that much money at that point of the time. Classic IS practically pay to play, and that doesn't stop any bots, it doesn't stop zenny buyers.


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Posted 25 November 2013 - 10:39 PM

P2P doesnt guranteed that iRO will be free of bot/scammer
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#80 ViktorKr33d

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Posted 25 November 2013 - 10:57 PM

I have screenshots of OP telling me in game "This game is -_-", "PvP doesn't mean crap to him", "He doesn't care about trolls" and "He will call the cops if I harass him". Obviously not with the proper use of English, which I had to translate for you guys.

 

Edit: Why the sudden change of heart 9-MM?


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#81 Sheriffl2k

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Posted 26 November 2013 - 07:55 AM

 

brilliant idea you got there -_-, i'd say  WP will lose 50- 80% of its the ro population if they do this crap. The server population is just starting to grow, why do people suggest these kinds of ideas to divide the population like" time to make a new server" "make it pay to play". i dont get it

 

Becuase they have all the money and nothing to lose already


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Posted 26 November 2013 - 08:22 AM

I have screenshots of OP telling me in game "This game is -_-", "PvP doesn't mean crap to him", "He doesn't care about trolls" and "He will call the cops if I harass him". Obviously not with the proper use of English, which I had to translate for you guys.

 

Edit: Why the sudden change of heart 9-MM?

 

Its simple, he lies on his first post that he willing to pay, and he just want this game to die. he cant kill the game by himself, so he use this trick. like he said "this game is -_-" .  simple huh ?

 

I my self will say good bye to RO if its force you to pay monthly per account for  50 usd.  let say i have 5 account, 250 usd per month ? i better spend those on real life stuffs and donate parentless kids.

Thats just ridiculous


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Posted 26 November 2013 - 08:33 AM

No thank you!
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Posted 26 November 2013 - 08:37 AM

Very few games can get away with purely subscription based payment models anymore, with even ones made with giant IPs by megacorps eventually having to go F2P. With as little publicity as we can afford, having an additional barrier to get people into the game isn't a winning proposition. With gamers getting older and having less time to do consecutive hours of gaming, having subscription required to log in makes less sense if you're only able to get on the game during less of the week and especially if you need additional accounts to vend, etc. 

 

 

Pretty much the big reason why Classic isn't doing so hot is because they require Magical Stone on 2nd class change, when it's basically impossible for 1st classers to gather that much money at that point of the time. Classic IS practically pay to play, and that doesn't stop any bots, it doesn't stop zenny buyers.

We abolished that requirement earlier this year. 

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Posted 26 November 2013 - 09:05 AM

Its better as well to close this thread and let it buried up into the dust, cause its ain't good too see for new players that wanna try this game.


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Posted 26 November 2013 - 09:09 AM

Seconded ^


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Posted 26 November 2013 - 09:11 AM

Its better as well to close this thread and let it buried up into the dust, cause its ain't good too see for new players that wanna try this game.

 

I don't believe myself to be new players out there to come and join; only veterans and for those who truly are new players to this game will take years of experience to catch up, mostly by trial and error like most of us have learned.

 

Nobody takes the time to sit down and tutor a new player on the server or on the forums, mostly its done by "iROWiki"

Have a question or any doubts of some sort? They re-direct you to irowiki. There is no problem with irowiki but I have the feeling that most players even experienced ones need attention from others and want someone to teach them instead of telling you "here, go to this website; you will find all your questions and doubts right there "http://irowiki.org/wiki/Main_Page"

 

That's just it.


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#88 Erydanos

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Posted 26 November 2013 - 11:55 AM

I don't believe myself to be new players out there to come and join; only veterans and for those who truly are new players to this game will take years of experience to catch up, mostly by trial and error like most of us have learned.

 

Nobody takes the time to sit down and tutor a new player on the server or on the forums, mostly its done by "iROWiki"

Have a question or any doubts of some sort? They re-direct you to irowiki. There is no problem with irowiki but I have the feeling that most players even experienced ones need attention from others and want someone to teach them instead of telling you "here, go to this website; you will find all your questions and doubts right there "http://irowiki.org/wiki/Main_Page"

 

That's just it.

 

Ok, I started playing in September...don't know if that makes me a new player anymore, but anyhow....

 

I knew this game existed and I knew it was old...but I thought "Hey it's gotta be good to be still running today, even with the competence of 3D games" (I wanted to play RO2 but my laptop couldn't handle it)

 

I've never played a p2p game, that just drives me away...I'm not American, I live in Mexico...I can't afford to be paying a monthly fee in USD. Making RO pay to play? Yeah, sure....I have other stuff, real life stuff to use my money for.

 

And Oda is right, the p2p model is not viable anymore, even top graphic and whatever other hi-tech gizmos games that were once p2p have gone f2p in order to survive.

 

And if you don't like iRO wiki then DO something about it! Contribute to it then! Anyway, the info is there for the one who asks for it, via the wiki, the forums, and other players...

 

 I think that we have come to the agreement that iRO can't turn p2p because of many factors that have already been mentioned in previous posts. This thread has no more use.

 

Third vote to close this thread.


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Posted 26 November 2013 - 12:37 PM

sorry, i work full time so i dont really think about people with no job or money. i was just thinking about myself. is only my opinion.

but i'm happy to see so many opinion. :p_laugh:


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Posted 26 November 2013 - 01:55 PM

sorry, i work full time so i dont really think about people with no job or money. i was just thinking about myself. is only my opinion.

but i'm happy to see so many opinion. :p_laugh:

 

Even those who work full time won't like paying. Cause they will miss events that on their work hours.


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Posted 26 November 2013 - 02:02 PM

iRO would never work as a p2p game again. It use to work because it had a large fanbase to begin with, but thats dwindled with time (and to be expected, this game consumes a vast amount of time to even keep up)

 

P2P would help with bots, sure, but then it would cause the game would close because nobody wants to p2p anymore and they would have to offer free trials to get new people to play and you'd end up with the same bot issue we have now, except they'd be a bit more limited on high end farming and you'd see a lot more at strawberries and crap like that.

 

I'd never P2P for RO again. I can't even partcipate in my favorite thing to do in RO, WoE 1, because I have work and school in the middle of the day. WoE use to be so much fun back in the day. I tried WoE 2 and didn't care much for it at all. I'm butthurt about WoE 1 being unavailable to me.

 

10 years of my life on and off on this game.... I would of never guessed I'd spend this long on this game, heh.

 

 


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Posted 26 November 2013 - 02:03 PM

Even those who work full time won't like paying. Cause they will miss events that on their work hours.

 

True. I'm just lucky i can play RO1 here in the office. :gg:


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Posted 26 November 2013 - 02:10 PM

My opinion is, NO

 

iRO had 3 servers before,

 

Ymir, Ygg and Valkyrie. 2 of them required $$$. What happened to those 2 ?

 

Right, all servers merged into one F2P server, now the population is growing bc iRO is now available on Steam.

 

Wanna make it P2P ? Why do you think those Steam user started playing iRO ?


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#94 ViktorKr33d

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Posted 26 November 2013 - 05:43 PM

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Posted 27 November 2013 - 03:06 PM

Keep in mind not everyone is fluent in English (not trying to be rude, just stating my observations, not everyone can speak fluent English on the server). While I personally like that, it does seem too troublesome, and besides where would one draw the line for "elementary stuff"? 

 

 

 

Options A and E look like the best (there was a screenshot a while back where the botspot guys got warped to the GM dungeon, that would be a good place to warp them to). I wrote my thoughts for B above and I agree with CatMuto. C and D are either skirting around laws or are illegal, I think. I'd have to check laws for that, no idea how it works over there in good old murica. We are trying to get rid of them the legal way, right guys and gals?

 

Option C in America isn't illegal, but option D is.  C might be skirting around them though.


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