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[D111]

Please remove G-Fist Cooldown in PVM.

 

If you wish to keep it in War of Emperium that is fine.

 

But the Berry/Seed cooldown plus the G-Fist cooldown is just too much.

 

Sura is ultra handicapped in MVPing due to this.

 

(I would love to see it removed completely)

 

Thank you

[bassman767]

hands up.

[Darksorrow1234]

yeah i dont mind the nerf for pvp/woe purpose. but for pvm, its just stupid

[Zander]

Amen to this!

[Izzy1]

Out of curiosity, how long IS the cool down? (I don't actually have a Sura) Well, I kinda have one, it's on an off-account. transed it to Sura, never played it again.

[Zander]

If im not mistaken its like 7-10secs before u can use sp item

[D111]

Out of curiosity, how long IS the cool down? (I don't actually have a Sura) Well, I kinda have one, it's on an off-account. transed it to Sura, never played it again.

 

It is 10 Seconds.

 

Which is a life time in any situation.

 

Here is a screenshot, I wasn't fast enough to get the screenshot with 10, but here is one with 9 sec left.

 

[Dirsion]

well at least your still indestructible with mental strength so its hard to kill you that's a plus

 

but uh is it even possible to do that though? make it lower/no cd in pvm maps and not in woe/pvp maps?

[D111]

well at least your still indestructible with mental strength so its hard to kill you that's a plus

 

but uh is it even possible to do that though? make it lower/no cd in pvm maps and not in woe/pvp maps?

 

This I have no idea.

 

That would be a question for Oda to answer.

[Baturiano]

I don't mind the CD the SP penalty is just stupid. What's the point? Make gfist CD 10 seconds but give us the ability to recover sp during that duration.

Edited by Baturiano, 03 March 2014 - 05:59 PM.

[D111]

I don't mind the CD the SP penalty is just stupid. What's the point?

 

Yea I could even go for that.

 

At least if I could pop a berry after I fist something, I could get spheres back up and prep faster for another with out instant repeat.

 

I am open to ideas, But the current cooldown, with the Berry and Seed and Ales nerf is just a huge handicap.

[Baturiano]

I've always thought why they nerfed the whole class for one single skill instead of nerfing that skill only. What a weird balancing idea

[D111]

I've always thought why they nerfed the whole class for one single skill instead of nerfing that skill only. What a weird balancing idea

 

It was a knee jerk reaction to an over population of Ales from an event.

 

It allowed instant sp recover with unlimited supply.

 

Coupled with the +9 Glorious Fist at the time allowed for massive Ownage by Suras in WOE.

 

I think that ability has passed with the update of the 1 sec delay of use on berry/seeds.

 

You can't spam them like before.

[youkimoji]

Agreed.

 

Now MVPing is pretty much all Gen's job. I mean it, everything, regarding MVPing = Gen.

 

Give us a break.

[thatfool]

i thought the cd was to combat green ales. now that ales are gone, we should unnerf it

[Pandiwi]

I support this!!! GMs don't want an angry panda 

 

[jake0619]

+1 for pvm at the vry least

[DarkDan]

It would be nice to actually mvp with my Sura again. He is just a MS tank for my Gen now lol. 

 

I remember the good old days before the nerf. I had a lot of fun killing MvP's with my Sura. Full buff Sura with no cool down is pretty OP though. Way more tanky than a Gen for sure. Not sure if higher dps before the nerf though. 

 

If you can't beat them, join them lol. I actually really like my Gen. I have a 150/50 Sura and Gen. Acid bomb/cart cannon/fcp/ghost cannon balls, ect.....

 

 

 

 

[Thanie]

I too agree with this. It would be awesome if they removed GFist cool down for PVM. Would make MVPing with Sura a lot of fun again.

[Kadelia]

MVPs last seconds after they are spawned. If anything, nerf it, and other top tier MVP skills instead of buffing

[Baturiano]

gfist cant hit ghost monsters, nerf sura

[bloodyrascal]

I don't mind the CD the SP penalty is just stupid. What's the point? Make gfist CD 10 seconds but give us the ability to recover sp during that duration.

 

That's what I was going to say. Gfist can have a 10 CD, but the sp cooldown suck. Sura cant to anything in those 10 secs.

[MintRoyale]

remove cooldown and sp recovery problem

 

if cause for it is ales, and ales now have a cool off period it makes sense to restore things to previous

 

make pvm normal

 

make mvps more competitive again

Edited by MintRoyale, 03 March 2014 - 08:24 PM.

[Sapphic]

Yeah, the SP is real stupid if you're refilling actively on a scholar, too.

[Kydon]

The sp cooldown is one of the most anti-fun mechanisms in the game, its just too much punishing for the sura to use gfist even if you use it on porings.