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#26 Baturiano

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Posted 21 August 2014 - 06:46 PM

that guy is wearing a dagger too lmfao 


Edited by Baturiano, 21 August 2014 - 06:46 PM.

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#27 Baturiano

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Posted 21 August 2014 - 06:48 PM

That doesn't look like a hack to me; dragon breath doesn't have any skill-specific cooldown, so it can be spammed at aspd if you remove the global delay (easy with strings) and remove the cast time (easy with temporal dex boots), so all that's left to ask is "can you cast this fast with any amount of aspd?" The answer is yes. With about 189+ aspd you could cast 4/sec like that RK appears to be doing.

 

The easiest/best way to balance dragon breath is to change the cooldown to skill-specific, 0.5 seconds.

 

In theory yes. If you account the lag you will eventually need to do the full animation. unless of course you send a crapload of packets all at once to the server


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Posted 21 August 2014 - 06:49 PM

aspd doesnt remove animation delay like that..... but ndl can


Edited by thatfool, 21 August 2014 - 06:52 PM.

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#29 Joshiji

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Posted 21 August 2014 - 06:50 PM

It wasn't legit.





The community can see that it isn't.


Which program are you using that shows the tiles affected by skills? M2e isn't working for me after last patch :(
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#30 Legendario2300

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Posted 21 August 2014 - 06:55 PM

Perfect, tranks campitor, ill delete my RK. i wont play RK nerfed.


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Posted 21 August 2014 - 07:00 PM

campitor noone cheating noone cheat at iro


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Posted 21 August 2014 - 07:03 PM

campitor noone cheating noone cheat at iro

 

you sure?

why Xellie stands in front line to combat cheaters when there isnt any?


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Posted 21 August 2014 - 07:04 PM

This thread is getting better and better!


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#34 Kadelia

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Posted 21 August 2014 - 07:05 PM

Aspd =/= animation delay. Try spamming cart cannon with high aspd. It won't help.
 

 

Perhaps you don't know what animation delay is. Arrow Vulcan is animation delay. Dragon Breath is not. Dragon breath is a normal cast/attack animation. Bowling Bash, Sonic Blow, Arrow Shower, Occult Impaction etc., have specific animation lengths that can't be altered without grf edits, but Dragon Breath isn't one.


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Posted 21 August 2014 - 07:06 PM

you sure?

why Xellie stands in front line to combat cheaters when there isnt any?

 

LoL i think xellie is the one who run all the bots at classic server  NOT TROLLING


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#36 Legendario2300

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Posted 21 August 2014 - 07:06 PM

The funniest part is that my RK will get nerfed tranks to a stupid RK using cheats and sh!ts in WOE. #Morelegitplayersplease

 

well i have sura too /sigh


Edited by Ralis, 21 August 2014 - 07:08 PM.

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#37 Haro

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Posted 21 August 2014 - 07:09 PM

was the user unbanned?


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#38 Joshiji

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Posted 21 August 2014 - 07:09 PM

Can I have your RK if you don't want it?

Edited by Joshiji, 21 August 2014 - 07:10 PM.

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Posted 21 August 2014 - 07:10 PM

[mod]This thread is NOT to call out guilds or specific people cheating. If you believe you have evidence of users cheating, please send in tickets or PM Oda, Campitor or Warnhal. Videos of players or guilds on the forums that you believe are cheating are not allowed.[/mod]

 

[mod]In addition, the personal insults aren't needed. Campitor made this thread for discussion on the nerf, not for you all to fling crap at each other.[/mod]


Edited by Ralis, 21 August 2014 - 07:11 PM.

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#40 Legendario2300

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Posted 21 August 2014 - 07:11 PM

Can I have your RK if you don't want it?

 

hmm... i can still use it for PVP but let me think XD


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Posted 21 August 2014 - 07:16 PM

how about share the build, let people test it before doing any nerfs?

 

and shoooo. ralis turned on his cheats


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Posted 21 August 2014 - 07:17 PM

[mod]This thread is NOT to call out guilds or specific people cheating. If you believe you have evidence of users cheating, please send in tickets or PM Oda, Campitor or Warnhal. Videos of players or guilds on the forums that you believe are cheating are not allowed.[/mod]

 

[mod]In addition, the personal insults aren't needed. Campitor made this thread for discussion on the nerf, not for you all to fling crap at each other.[/mod]

 

funny because they're gonna discredit no delay now since it's replicable with computers right next to the server, so basically no latency, no sort of information sending delay. :>

 

until the so called "balance" everyone should just use nodelay now since it's *legit*!

 

on a serious note, GMs should be banning cheaters, rather than nerfing skills unnecessarily. There are users that do not use nodelay and they're taking unprecedented consequences now because GMs can't tell the difference between those that cheat and those that don't.


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Posted 21 August 2014 - 07:20 PM

I don't play Renewal and I don't have a clue how Dragon's Breath works so I can't comment on any cheating that may be going on. I don't doubt that it IS happening, though, based on the state of Classic. :l I just saw videos that show guild emblems and player names from iRO and poofed them.


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Posted 21 August 2014 - 07:32 PM

Can we get the 1 second cooldown for release removed while at it?

 

Thank you.


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Posted 21 August 2014 - 07:32 PM

[mod]This thread is NOT to call out guilds or specific people cheating. If you believe you have evidence of users cheating, please send in tickets or PM Oda, Campitor or Warnhal. Videos of players or guilds on the forums that you believe are cheating are not allowed.[/mod]

 

[mod]In addition, the personal insults aren't needed. Campitor made this thread for discussion on the nerf, not for you all to fling crap at each other.[/mod]

 

Like you say, Campitor made this thread for discussion about nerf DB, so why you edit/delete videos/evidence? a lot people say is not a cheat, so what is the problem?

 

leave them for continue this, people need check for make personal opinion.

 

anyway, i see why people dont want to play renewal WoEs anymore...


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Posted 21 August 2014 - 07:35 PM

i 2nd telling us what the set up is Campitor used with a few consumables before we go about nerfing an entire class. If it is something very easy to achieve then maybe a nerf is needed to "balance" it out in WoE cuz that would be a bit ridiculous every RK running about with insta DB

 


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Posted 21 August 2014 - 07:35 PM

LoL i think xellie is the one who run all the bots at classic server  NOT TROLLING


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Posted 21 August 2014 - 07:36 PM

I don't play Renewal and I don't have a clue how Dragon's Breath works so I can't comment on any cheating that may be going on. I don't doubt that it IS happening, though, based on the state of Classic. :l I just saw videos that show guild emblems and player names from iRO and poofed them.

 

I have permission to post the videos.

 

How about you just take a deep breath and rewatch Ella Enchanted on Netfilx.

 

 


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Posted 21 August 2014 - 07:38 PM

^ I think Campitor wasn't referencing the guy/RK on that video... It was someone else...


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Posted 21 August 2014 - 07:39 PM

I am the hero renewal needs, but not the one it deserves.

this is what u called a classic jerk :p_devil:  :p_devil:


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