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#1 Campitor

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Posted 01 June 2015 - 09:01 AM

Campitor: This applies to all games. Just storing the thread here.

Scamming and YOU!

Ever see something that just seems far too good to be true? It probably is! Make sure to read this post and make sure you won't get caught by the scammers!

This thread will outline the most common scams, why they don’t make sense and what to do if someone like this approaches you.

(tl;dr take a lesson from the early 90’s and JUST SAY NO!)

The Wicked “GM”

GMs and CMs are semi-respected pillars of any online gaming community. As they hold positions of power and trust, it seems reasonable to comply with their requests. Unfortunately, many scammers will take advantage of these titles and try to use them to rob innocent victims. Here are some key things you should be aware of:
  • A GM will never, EVER, EVER ask for your password. They just don’t need it and never will. Your password is a sacred string of characters meant only for you and your downloaded copy of our game client.
  • A GM will always have the RO GM sprite. It is impossible for a normal player to obtain this sprite, so don't be fooled by a level 1 Novice saying they're a GM!
If you have your doubts about someone messaging you like this, they should easily be able to show you their sprite. If they can’t do so immediately, you should take a screen shot of the conversation and submit a ticket! Don’t worry, if you accidentally report a real GM, they can sort it out later – better safe than sorry right?

The Desperate Clan Master (or Friend)

One of the best things about RO is our delightful little community. Some of the better known players are almost elevated to celebrity status! Like the GM/CM issue, some people will try to take advantage of players by pretending to be someone else in the RO community. When your best friend asks you for your incredibly rare, incredibly upgraded gear, here are some things to think about first!
  • Why does your friend suddenly need this item? You have known each other for a long time and they have never asked it of you before! If they are acting funny and seem… a little off, tell them sorry BUT NO! Even if it really was your best friend or guild leader asking you for something, keep this in mind: there is no such mechanic such as “lending” items. If you trade an item to anyone, you do so with the understanding you might not EVER get it back.
  • Why is this well-known person asking for favors from another account? If they are who they say they are, let them log in to the character by which you know them. I can’t think of any reason for “SpicyPancakes” to ever message you from a character named “qwertuyio102938fo.” If they claim they are unable to log in to that specific character at the moment, it sounds like they have a personal issue and you should recommend they get that cleared up by submitting a ticket! If your friend can’t take 10 seconds to prove they are your friend, you shouldn't take 10 seconds to help them rob you!
  • Well their name looks similar but… You think it’s quite odd that a fellow Guild Member suddenly wants to borrow something? Well I think that’s odd too! Why don’t you meet up in town and see if this suspicious character really is your pal. I understand that SillyMan can look just like SiiiyMan when capital “I” and lower case “L” letters are involved! If your SillyMan is in the clan, but SiIIyMan has no guild emblem – it looks like you’ve found a scammer.
The Positively Ridiculous Phishing Site

RO and other Gravity games will regularly have exciting contests with chances to win FABULOUS prizes. All of these events tend to have one thing in common: they don’t involve you giving away your password. If you are given lofty promises of free Warp Portal Energy and billions of Zeny, keep the following things in mind:
  • Your password is a sacred key that guards your precious goods. There are only two places you will ever need to type in your password: the RO client log-in screen, and the official Warp Portal Account Binding page. Once your RO game account is bound to your Warp Portal account (and this only applies to users who created a RO account before the Warp Portal system existed) you will never ever ever ever ever ever EVER EVER need use your password anywhere but the game’s log in screen. I know this sounds like common sense, but you would be surprised how easily some users throw this information around. We even receive tickets saying “hey Mr. GM help my game crashed and my password is megaman!” Remember what I said before? We don’t need your password so you shouldn't give it out – even to us!
  • We employ professional web designers. Just look at the website you are at. Is it one of those ridiculous Geocities or Angelfire pages from when the internet was still young and untamed? Is it a “free web hosting by X” style web page that looked like it took about 14 seconds to create? Now, we may not be perfect, but I have enough pride in our team to state that we would never produce such a shoddy-looking website. You can also make note of the Gravity Interactive verified security certification in your browser.
Hey- Lemme “See” That

If a user ever wants to get a good look at an item you have, they can look with their eyes, not their trade windows! As I said earlier,once you click confirm and exchange, you have officially given up all claims of ownership for that item.

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#2 Sandyman

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Posted 01 June 2015 - 09:18 AM

"megamen" was MY Password   :puppyeye:

 

Warpportal looks indeed better without advertising WTFast  :bash:

 

Seungcheol did a excellent job! :thumb:

 

 


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Posted 01 June 2015 - 09:34 AM

dat banner though. I was checking my adblock settings :x
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Posted 01 June 2015 - 10:25 AM

some text is black and blends on deviant skin may want to change to another colour


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Posted 01 June 2015 - 10:27 AM

some text is black and blends on deviant skin may want to change to another colour

Should be fixed.


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Posted 01 June 2015 - 10:28 AM

Easiest is probs ctrl+a/select all and press Auto under txt color. A lot don't realize it happens when they copy and paste. x___x

 

Edit: Camp is fast.


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#7 AlmrOfAtlas

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Posted 01 June 2015 - 02:45 PM

Am I the only one that's been getting a ton of security cert errors on the forums lately? Red screen, out of date cert, having to bypass it every time I access from a new browser.


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Posted 01 June 2015 - 02:47 PM

Am I the only one that's been getting a ton of security cert errors on the forums lately? Red screen, out of date cert, having to bypass it every time I access from a new browser.

 

You're not alone on that one.


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Posted 03 June 2015 - 04:14 AM

Campitor: This applies to all games. Just storing the thread here.

  • We employ professional web designers. Just look at the website you are at. Is it one of those ridiculous Geocities or Angelfire pages from when the internet was still young and untamed? Is it a “free web hosting by X” style web page that looked like it took about 14 seconds to create? Now, we may not be perfect, but I have enough pride in our team to state that we would never produce such a shoddy-looking website. You can also make note of the Gravity Interactive verified security certification in your browser.

How to determine whether it's an official warpportal site or not (by example: roseonlinegame.com):

  • the site doesn't support https
  • 3ed party tracking cookies everywhere
  • even simple tasks like downloading the game client require you to login with your username/password
  • the vast number of moving banners makes you feel like you are back in the early 2000's (due to the banners your internet speed offers that fancy retro feeling too)

if any of the points mentioned above doesn't apply to the site in question - better triple check whether it's an official site or not. ;)


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Posted 03 June 2015 - 02:08 PM

How to determine whether it's an official warpportal site or not (by example: roseonlinegame.com):

  • the site doesn't support https
  • 3ed party tracking cookies everywhere
  • even simple tasks like downloading the game client require you to login with your username/password
  • the vast number of moving banners makes you feel like you are back in the early 2000's (due to the banners your internet speed offers that fancy retro feeling too)

if any of the points mentioned above doesn't apply to the site in question - better triple check whether it's an official site or not. ;)

 

  • Downloading RO from the playragnarok page requires you provide your login information.
  • playragnarok is host to facebook social and google analytics plugins, both of which are 3rd party.
  • HTTPS support -_-s up on WP pages all the time.

 

Pretty dumb points you have there.


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Posted 03 June 2015 - 07:26 PM

You musta missed the point that SlowBob was artfully trolling; - and made very lul worthy points.  - 

Also, he' was mentioning ROSE - this topic is geared to all titles *runs away so Bob can't catch him* 


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Posted 03 June 2015 - 07:57 PM

You musta missed the point that SlowBob was artfully trolling; - and made very lul worthy points.  - 

Also, he' was mentioning ROSE - this topic is geared to all titles *runs away so Bob can't catch him* 

 

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Posted 04 June 2015 - 05:21 AM

almr fake trolling a fake troller. that's some next level ish right there.
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Posted 04 June 2015 - 07:32 AM

Troll-ception


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Posted 04 June 2015 - 04:29 PM

Well said a troll post.

 


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Posted 07 June 2015 - 04:08 AM

Troll-ception

oh my ribs. 


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Posted 07 June 2015 - 04:58 AM

Administrators of games have direct access to databases and have administrative access to accounts... there is no situation in any game that has ever existed to me knowledge that an admin would need to say "uhh... hey, what's your password? So I can help you." Please people, don't fall for this silly SILLY, SILLY trick. Not even just games... but anything in your adult life including your bank's customer service or your workplace's IT helpdesk. They don't need your password. For anything. Only someone with no admin access to the game/work server/bank account would need it... IE a thief who is lying to you about who they are. Pls gooby pls.


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Posted 07 June 2015 - 06:14 AM

Administrators of games have direct access to databases and have administrative access to accounts... there is no situation in any game that has ever existed to me knowledge that an admin would need to say "uhh... hey, what's your password? So I can help you." Please people, don't fall for this silly SILLY, SILLY trick. Not even just games... but anything in your adult life including your bank's customer service or your workplace's IT helpdesk. They don't need your password. For anything. Only someone with no admin access to the game/work server/bank account would need it... IE a thief who is lying to you about who they are. Pls gooby pls.

Did you know if you type your password in chat, right after typing your char login, the game will sensor it? --- try it. 


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Posted 08 June 2015 - 11:07 PM

Man do I feel stupid today, :( I fell for such a dumb scam. I was explaining to a player named

 

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about different features of the game. After giving him basic info about the game. He first wanted to join my guild which I would not invite him to. I told him that it is a new guild and that I'm the only member. I told him that I'm not inviting anyone cause I want to learn about how to run a guild before just inviting random people, and eventually he wanted to see my equipment cause he was wondering how I was casting random spells as a simple swordsman.

 

I lent him my CD, Fallen Angel Wings, & Costume: Angel Mini Silk Hat cause he wanted to try them out. Then he asked to borrow my Costume: Archangel Wing which I would not let him until he gave me my other 3 items and since I wouldn't let him he signed off. When he came back on I asked him for my stuff back but now he won't respond to me, I sent in a ticket so hopefully I can get my stuff back, man I'm so stupid. :wall:

 

Please people, if you ever have doubts in your gut be sure to either trust your gut or just totally ignore the person. I should have gone with my gut since he was wearing a Rudra's Wing and crown. According the ropd he has another thief character named -snip- so be on guard for those two characters.

 

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Names were removed.

This is not the place to call out players conducting ill-mannered behavior. 


Edited by VModCinnamon, 09 June 2015 - 05:52 AM.
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Posted 09 June 2015 - 01:49 AM

Well look at the bright side, you will definitely not fall for something like that again :)

 

Btw, we could rename the topic to "How to scam people - quick intro".


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Posted 09 June 2015 - 05:59 AM

Sorry, was just to upset earlier, wasn't thinking clearly, thank you for removing the names. I'll be sure to be on guard in the future.

 

 

Man do I feel stupid today, :( I fell for such a dumb scam. I was explaining to a player named

 

-snip-

 

about different features of the game. After giving him basic info about the game. He first wanted to join my guild which I would not invite him to. I told him that it is a new guild and that I'm the only member. I told him that I'm not inviting anyone cause I want to learn about how to run a guild before just inviting random people, and eventually he wanted to see my equipment cause he was wondering how I was casting random spells as a simple swordsman.

 

I lent him my CD, Fallen Angel Wings, & Costume: Angel Mini Silk Hat cause he wanted to try them out. Then he asked to borrow my Costume: Archangel Wing which I would not let him until he gave me my other 3 items and since I wouldn't let him he signed off. When he came back on I asked him for my stuff back but now he won't respond to me, I sent in a ticket so hopefully I can get my stuff back, man I'm so stupid. :wall:

 

Please people, if you ever have doubts in your gut be sure to either trust your gut or just totally ignore the person. I should have gone with my gut since he was wearing a Rudra's Wing and crown. According the ropd he has another thief character named -snip- so be on guard for those two characters.

 

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Names were removed.

This is not the place to call out players conducting ill-mannered behavior. 

 


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#22 LoyalSAOSoldier

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Posted 09 June 2015 - 06:00 AM

Isn't that the truth

 

Well look at the bright side, you will definitely not fall for something like that again :)

 

Btw, we could rename the topic to "How to scam people - quick intro".

 


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Posted 10 June 2015 - 10:53 AM

another scam is when they aask you to vote on their fansite


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Posted 17 June 2015 - 08:08 AM

Good that you posted this. Another one to note is guild names. This one only recently came to my attention. Some people will do chats in eden to buy WP items and come in with a character in a mock guild named similarly to a well known one to increase peoples trust before trying to run them in circles with the classic 'my zeny isn't on such and such character' Don't accept these kinds of trades even if you think you may know the person. Desperation is boundless with some of the scams going on lately.


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Posted 07 July 2015 - 07:57 PM

Fell for one of said tricks once... A long long time ago when I was new and didn't understand anything about anything... I still don't understand. Where am I?  I thought I was getting something like free zeny when I clicked that banner ad... FALSE ADVERTISING!  SCAM!!!!!!


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