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[Nirvanna21]

Here are a list of revisions I was going to run pass Campitor.
 
Please give as much feedback as possible, I think it's about time some of these things worked and in some cases were buffed because times have changed.

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Shrine Maiden's Hat
Increases the damage of ^0000FFMagnus Exorcismus^000000 by 20%.
Increases the damage of ^0000FFMagnus Exorcismus^000000 by an additional 10% per upgrade level of the item up to a maximum upgrade level of 10.
If upgrade level is +7 or higher,
Adds a 5% chance of casting ^0000FFLevel 5 Heal^000000 on the user when receiving a physical or magical attack, if a higher level of this skill is known, it will be cast instead.
If upgrade level is +9 or higher,
Reduces the fixed casting time of ^0000FFMagnus Exorcismus^000000 by 50%.


Ordinary Black Magician's Hat
Bypass 10% of Mdef of Normal, Boss targets when performing a magical attack.
Bypass an additional 2% of Mdef of Normal, Boss targets when performing a magical attack per upgrade level of the item up to a maximum upgrade level of 10.
Increases the damage of ^0000FFChain Lightning^000000 by 5%.
Increases the damage of ^0000FFCrimson Rock^000000 by 5%.
Increases the damage of ^0000FFEarth Strain^000000 by 5%.
Increases the damage of ^0000FFJack Frost^000000 by 5%.
If upgrade level is +7 or higher,
Matk + 5%
If upgrade level is +9 or higher,
Increases the damage of ^0000FFChain Lightning^000000 by an additional 10%.
Increases the damage of ^0000FFCrimson Rock^000000 by an additional 10%.
Increases the damage of ^0000FFEarth Strain^000000 by an additional 10%.
Increases the damage of ^0000FFJack Frost^000000 by an additional 10%.


Night Sparrow Hat/Lyrica Hat
Atk + 5%
Matk + 5%
Reduces the SP cost of ^0000FFReverberation^000000 by 30.
Reduces the SP cost of ^0000FFSevere Rainstorm^000000 by 30.
If upgrade level is +7 or higher,
Atk + 1 for every 4 base AGI.
Matk + 1 for every 4 base INT.
If upgrade level is +9 or higher,

Reduces the cooldown of ^0000FFSevere Rainstorm^000000 by 0.2 seconds per upgrade level of the item up to a maximum upgrade level of 10.
Increases the damage of ^0000FFReverberation^000000 by 75%.

 

Magician's Nightcap
Bypass 2% of Mdef of Normal, Boss targets when performing a magical attack per level of ^0000FFHindsight^000000 known.
Bypass an additional 2% of Mdef of Normal, Boss targets when performing a magical attack per level of ^0000FFSpell Fist^000000 known.

Increases the damage of ^0000FFCold Bolt^000000 by 50%.
Increases the damage of ^0000FFFire Bolt^000000 by 50%.
Increases the damage of ^0000FFLightning Bolt^000000 by 50%.
If upgrade level is +7 or higher,
Increases the damage of ^0000FFSpell Fist^000000 by 25%.
If upgrade level is +9 or higher,
Aspd + 5


Ascendant Crown
I don't believe any changes are neccessary.
 

 

Spring Leaf Headband

Increases the damage of ^0000FFFire Trap^000000 by 50%.
Increases the damage of ^0000FFIce Trap^000000 by 50%.
If upgrade level is +7 or higher,
ATK + 1 for every 2 base INT.

Reduces the damage of ^0000FFArrow Storm^000000 by 50%.
If upgrade level is +9 or higher,
Increases the damage of ^0000FFFire Trap^000000 by an additional 50%.
Increases the damage of ^0000FFIce Trap^000000 by an additional 50%.


Autumn Headband
Increases long-ranged damage on targets by 5%.
If upgrade level is +7 or higher,
Reduces the SP cost of ^0000FFArrow Storm^000000 by 40.
If upgrade level is +9 or higher,
Increases the damage of ^0000FFArrow Storm^000000 by 35%.


Black Ribbon
Increases the damage of ^0000FFSonic Wave^000000 by 75%.
Increases the damage of ^0000FFWind Cutter^000000 by 75%.
If upgrade level is +7 or higher,
ATK + 1 for every 3 base AGI.
If upgrade level is +9 or higher,
Increases the damage of ^0000FFIgnition Break^000000 by 35%.


Divine Guard Hat
Reduces damage taken from Small, Medium, Large size enemies by 5%.
If upgrade level is +7 or higher,
Adds a 3% chance of casting ^0000FFLevel 5 Heal^000000 on the user when receiving a physical or magical attack, if a higher level of this skill is known, it will be cast instead.
If upgrade level is +9 or higher,
Increases the damage of ^0000FFGrand Cross^000000 by 5% for every 5 base INT.


Focus Beret

Increases the damage of ^0000FFKnuckle Arrow^000000 by 10%.

Increases the damage of ^0000FFSky Blow^000000 by 10%.
If upgrade level is +7 or higher,
Increases the damage of ^0000FFKnuckle Arrow^000000 by an additional 20%.
Increases the damage of ^0000FFSky Blow^000000 by an additional 20%.

If upgrade level is +9 or higher,

Reduces the cast delay delay of skills by 100%.

Increases the cooldown of ^0000FFGates of Hell^000000 by 1 minute.

Increases the cooldown of ^0000FFTiger Cannon^000000 by 1 minute.

 

 

Harvester Hat
Adds a chance of gaining ^008080Explosive Mushroom Spore^000000 when a monster is killed.
If upgrade level is +7 or higher,
Adds a chance of gaining ^008080Thorn Seed^000000 when a monster is killed.
If upgrade level is +9 or higher,
Increases the damage of ^0000FFSpore Explosion^000000 by 75%.


Dead Man Bandana
I have no clue how to approach this one.


Very Normal Hat
Dex + 5
Increases the damage of ^0000FFTriangle Shot^000000 by 10%.
If upgrade level is +7 or higher,
Increases long-ranged damage by 1% for every 10 base DEX.
If upgrade level is +9 or higher,
Increases the damage of ^0000FFTriangle Shot^000000 by an additional 20%.


Oni Horns
Increases the damage of ^0000FFCounter Slash^000000 by 15% per level of ^0000FFWeapon Blocking^000000 known.
If upgrade level is +7 or higher,
Atk + 20
Hit + 20
If upgrade level is +9 or higher,
Adds a 1% chance of casting ^0000FFLevel 1 Counter Slash^000000 on the target when dealing a physical attack, if a higher level of this skill is known, it will be cast instead.


Sea Captain Hat
Increases the damage of ^0000FFAxe Tornado^000000 by 20%.
If upgrade level is +7 or higher,
Increases the damage of ^0000FFAxe Tornado^000000 by an additional 2% per level of ^0000FFWeaponry Research^000000 known.
If upgrade level is +9 or higher,
Increases the damage of ^0000FFAxe Tornado^000000 by an additional 2% per level of ^0000FFAxe Mastery^000000 known.

Edited by Nirvanna21, 17 March 2017 - 01:42 PM.

[Faxx]

These seem cool, interesting ideas

[Nirvanna21]

These seem cool, interesting ideas

 

They are just revisions and/or copies of a project that appears to have been long since left in the dust.

[ZeroTigress]

Why not revive the old discussions?

https://forums.warpp...ry-lyrica-hat1/

https://forums.warpp...oundry-round-2/

[Nirvanna21]

Why not revive the old discussions?

https://forums.warpp...ry-lyrica-hat1/

https://forums.warpp...oundry-round-2/

 

Because they are a can of worms.

Edited by Nirvanna21, 07 March 2017 - 09:05 PM.

[Tofu]

Focus beret never worked. Like any of it. Having it do SOMETHING would be a vast improvement.

Also, I'm not sure what has changed with your proposals. The numbers don't look insane like 600% cart cannon damage, so it's not obvious what is different about these.

Edited by Tofu, 07 March 2017 - 09:10 PM.

[Nirvanna21]

Focus beret never worked. Like any of it. Having it do SOMETHING would be a vast improvement.

 

Also, I'm not sure what has changed with your proposals. The numbers don't look insane like 600% cart cannon damage, so it's not obvious what is different about these.

 

Yeah, I am up for suggestions. I have never once played a Monk class so my knowledge is zilch.

 

And really it is about making them work within what they were meant to. I plan to test them all out and find ways of achieving their original intent. If they already work as intended then that's fine, a small boost would suffice, but I really don't wanna make them insane, just useful. That 600% CC damage is just garbage.

Edited by Nirvanna21, 07 March 2017 - 09:12 PM.

[ZeroTigress]

Because they are a can of worms.

And this thread isn't...?

[Nirvanna21]

Changed the Night Sparrow/Lyrica Headgear effects to those suggested by Kaddy in the old thread.

 

Also changed the chaser headgear to be triangle shot oriented.

 

And this thread isn't...?

 

It's an opportunity to get things done, may as well take it

Edited by Nirvanna21, 07 March 2017 - 10:06 PM.

[CadburyChocolate]

so is Camp gonna have this working especially those changes in AHB?

[Nirvanna21]

so is Camp gonna have this working especially those changes in AHB?

 

Well he wants to make the all the hats functional, but since he is planning on doing something with them he may as well follow suit and have this project finished.

 

I think the biggest offender is the AHB, but due to how people are with things outright being removed, having an alternative available for bombing is the best course of action.

 

I hope some other people can weigh in on this, wanna get Camp interested as soon as possible

[Myzery]

What if anything changed with your iteration of the OBM hat. Mostly, these look good, I would be interested in triangle shot proposal.

[MikaKuchiki]

AHB already exist from more than 2 years. Correcting its effect now seems wrong.

Because we talk about how people already safe/invest zeny for this gears.

It's not funny if suddenly we need to throw this gear or let it become dusty in storage, because the effect not related to our build anymore. Then we need to buy new headgear, upgrade it again and put a card, its really troublesome.

(Sorry, because buy a gear that cost 1b is not easy for me and for some players too)

 

 

I think create a new gear for trapper is the good solution for AHB. Or adding a new effect without deleting the old one.

Unless we can trade our +9 AHB to +9 replica on a NPC, its not really a problem.

 

My suggestion: let AHB for bow ranger and make replica for trapper. Or add trap effect in AHB without delete AS effect

Edited by MikaKuchiki, 07 March 2017 - 11:31 PM.

[Myzery]

That's exactly what Nirvanna is proposing.

[CadburyChocolate]

anyway, maybe adding MDEF pierce like 20% to magicians nightcap would help. I just hope kRO would give iRO the liberty to change these items without iRO going to and fro to them... And also, i hope changes are made even before biohats come

[Raitonagata]

AHB already exist from more than 2 years. Correcting its effect now seems wrong.

Because we talk about how people already safe/invest zeny for this gears.

It's not funny if suddenly we need to throw this gear or let it become dusty in storage, because the effect not related to our build anymore. Then we need to buy new headgear, upgrade it again and put a card, its really troublesome.

(Sorry, because buy a gear that cost 1b is not easy for me and for some players too)

 

 

I think create a new gear for trapper is the good solution for AHB. Or adding a new effect without deleting the old one.

Unless we can trade our +9 AHB to +9 replica on a NPC, its not really a problem.

 

My suggestion: let AHB for bow ranger and make replica for trapper. Or add trap effect in AHB without delete AS effect

 

it should be

[Zayaan]

Regarding Focus Beret, I don't think combo builds need a buff. Flash Combo took care of that. What I would love to see it do is buff Knuckle Arrow. Perhaps something like the following:

 

Knuckle Arrow and Sky Blow damage +10%

+7: Knuckle Arrow and Sky Blow damage +20%

+9: After cast delay -100%, GoH and TC cooldown +60 seconds

 

This allows for the playstyle in the following video without the use of Kiel Cards.

 

 

And no, it wouldn't devalue Kiel Card. Nobody buying Kiel is doing so for the purpose of using it on a KA Sura.

[Nirvanna21]

What if anything changed with your iteration of the OBM hat. Mostly, these look good, I would be interested in triangle shot proposal.

 

A slight increase on the skill damage, though it was noted as possibly not working so it will be tested.

 

And yeah, I based triangle shot on the fact that we are also eventually getting Murica Land gears which also aim to buff this skill.

 

AHB already exist from more than 2 years. Correcting its effect now seems wrong.

Because we talk about how people already safe/invest zeny for this gears.

It's not funny if suddenly we need to throw this gear or let it become dusty in storage, because the effect not related to our build anymore. Then we need to buy new headgear, upgrade it again and put a card, its really troublesome.

(Sorry, because buy a gear that cost 1b is not easy for me and for some players too)

 

 

I think create a new gear for trapper is the good solution for AHB. Or adding a new effect without deleting the old one.

Unless we can trade our +9 AHB to +9 replica on a NPC, its not really a problem.

 

My suggestion: let AHB for bow ranger and make replica for trapper. Or add trap effect in AHB without delete AS effect

 

What my proposal says is...

 

Rename our current AHB to Replica Hairband. Add a new Autumn Hairband with the trapper effects. Make the Replica Hairband be tradable to an NPC that behaves like the Mad Bunny Shield.

 

anyway, maybe adding MDEF pierce like 20% to magicians nightcap would help. I just hope kRO would give iRO the liberty to change these items without iRO going to and fro to them... And also, i hope changes are made even before biohats come

 

Could be neat, would love to hear other thoughts on this.

 

Regarding Focus Beret, I don't think combo builds need a buff. Flash Combo took care of that. What I would love to see it do is buff Knuckle Arrow. Perhaps something like the following:

 

Knuckle Arrow and Sky Blow damage +10%

+7: Knuckle Arrow and Sky Blow damage +20%

+9: After cast delay -100%, GoH and TC cooldown +60 seconds

 

This allows for the playstyle in the following video without the use of Kiel Cards.

 

 

And no, it wouldn't devalue Kiel Card. Nobody buying Kiel is doing so for the purpose of using it on a KA Sura.

 

Sounds pretty cool, might use this for now.

Edited by Nirvanna21, 08 March 2017 - 12:59 AM.

[MikaKuchiki]

Oh, i'm really sorry... i think it is only make new headgear when i first read it.
It's no problem then. I think it's a good solution

[Zayaan]

Sounds pretty cool, might use this for now.

 

Unfortunately I don't think reducing after cast delay of specific skills is possible. That's why my suggestion was a general -100% after cast delay reduction with lengthy cooldowns added to GoH and TC to prevent people from using the headgear with those skills. As far as I know, those are the only 2 skills people would actually want Kiel on Suras for.

[Nirvanna21]

Unfortunately I don't think reducing after cast delay of specific skills is possible. That's why my suggestion was a general -100% after cast delay reduction with lengthy cooldowns added to GoH and TC to prevent people from using the headgear with those skills. As far as I know, those are the only 2 skills people would actually want Kiel on Suras for.

 

Hard to say, it's listed in the modifiers list I made which means I must have come across it at some point.

 

If not I can always just do as you say and either add a huge cool down or a massive damage reduction to the two mentioned skills.

[Ashuckel]

Doesnt OBMH mdef pierce effect scales to higher than +10 atm, ehh why reduce it :v

Also, Oni Horn could cast Counter Slash instead of Cross Impact.

For the RG one, it could be 5% every 5 int and another 5% every 5 str, as it's a hybrid skill(and the atk portion is stronger anyways). I dont like the heal proc, it harms you more than helps, with the delay it gives you lol.

Edited by Ashuckel, 08 March 2017 - 02:35 AM.

[fuyukikun]

+1 for AHB, you're the man if you can make this proposal granted

[CadburyChocolate]

How does proposals like this works? Just wondering if it's possible to have this pushed to be implemented a month from now? or is it just impossible

[RaveMaster]

Nice +25% dmg increase on Wind Cutter/Sonic Wave, love it! i hope if this proposal gets approved by GMs, Physical Rks use these skills more since both skills are a bit forgotten (Specially Wind Cutter).