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#1 CMAstra

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Posted 03 November 2017 - 04:04 PM

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TIME CHANGE - TAKES EFFECT 11-5-2017

  • Daylight Savings time has come. From on 11/5/2017 2:00am - 11/5/2017 5:00am the servers may be unavailable. During this time some network maintenance will be completed.
    • Thor
      • ​Current Times
        • WoE 1: Saturday 4:00am PDT, (GMT - 7), 6:00pm Jakarta
        • WoE 2: Monday 5:00am PDT, (GMT - 7), 7:00pm Jakarta
        • WoE TE: Friday 6:00am PDT, (GMT - 7), 8:00pm Jakarta
      • New Times
        • WoE 1: Saturday 3:00am PST, (GMT - 8), 6:00pm Jakarta
        • WoE 2: Monday 4:00am PST, (GMT - 8), 7:00pm Jakarta
        • WoE TE: Friday 5:00am PST, (GMT - 8), 8:00pm Jakarta
    • Chaos
      • ​Current Times
        • WoE 1: Wednesday 4:00pm PDT, (GMT - 7), Thursday 6:00am Jakarta
        • WoE 2: Saturday 4:00pm PDT, (GMT - 7), Sunday 6:00am Jakarta
        • WoE TE: Sunday 9:00am PDT, (GMT - 7), 11:00pm Jakarta
      • New Times
        • WoE 1: Wednesday 4:00pm PST, (GMT - 8), Thursday 7:00am Jakarta
        • WoE 2: Saturday 4:00pm PST, (GMT - 8), Sunday 7:00am Jakarta
        • WoE TE: Sunday 9:00am PST, (GMT - 8), 11:59pm Jakarta
    • Loki
      • Current Times
        • WoE 1 Saturday 1pm PDT (GMT -7), 6AM Brisbane
        • WoE 2 Sunday Noon PDT(GMT -7), 5AM Brisbane
      • New Times
        • WoE 1 Saturday Noon PST (GMT -8), 6AM Brisbane
        • WoE 2Sunday 11am PST(GMT -8), 5AM Brisbane

There has been some push to change the Chaos WoE TE Time. Upon reviewing the user count logs the current time takes place right at the beginning of server peak time. Due to this there are no plans to change the time.


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#2 Diskence

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Posted 03 November 2017 - 05:29 PM

Can you please change the TE time for Chaos to 8AM? If you make it the same at 9AM you are going to kill it completely. 

 

EDIT: What was the whole point of doing a whole survey on TE times then you just do the exact same thing you do next year? 


Edited by Diskence, 03 November 2017 - 05:37 PM.

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Posted 03 November 2017 - 05:33 PM

Poor schedule for SEA guilds :/


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Posted 03 November 2017 - 06:10 PM

Currently can tolerate with 12midnight to 1am TE. But later will be 1am-2am TE with next working day..bye bye TE
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Posted 03 November 2017 - 06:30 PM

EDIT: What was the whole point of doing a whole survey on TE times then you just do the exact same thing you do next year? 

Ah yes, the TE survey. Pretty sure everyone forgot all about it. This discussion has been had multiple times, and the survey was supposed to be the answer, then the GMs decided to shut the lid on it for some reason. Is it really that difficult to just turn back TE WoE timings by ONE hour?

 

That aside, TE WoE is the only WoE that has a reasonable population now. WoE 1.0 and WoE 2.0 are dead. A midnight WoE for SEA players (who make up the vast majority of the current TE population) will render the very last WoE dead as well.

 

You have refused to act for the sake of WoE 1 and 2, and they have ended up dead. At least make some attempts towards the last remaining WoE.


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Posted 03 November 2017 - 07:07 PM

Seem like we did the survey for nothing if they just going to base on the log in count. This is totally unacceptable.

 

Disappointed by WP move once again. WOE TE is the only woe SEA player can play due to different in timezone and we are probably at work during that time. However, for WOE TE, we sacrifice our sleep time for fun. Yet once again, WP decided not to do anything even after survey. And no transparency after the survey too. Well done. 


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Posted 03 November 2017 - 07:52 PM

Some info about the survey:
 

Please understand this is not a decision making poll, but rather a information gathering questionnaire so I have a better picture what players thinking (Questions) and doing(Game Logs). This doesn't mean we are changing the time immediately but so that we have this knowledge for future consideration.
 
I am trying to gather data from all sources that we can and the process is a slow grind. It will take time to analyze the data and compare to before time change WoE TEs.


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Posted 03 November 2017 - 07:55 PM

If you're planning to completely kill WoE and whatever enjoyable left on Chaos -- then you're on the right track :no1:

Edited by stephlolol, 03 November 2017 - 09:43 PM.

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Posted 03 November 2017 - 08:18 PM

Some info about the survey:
 

 

Have you ever attended TE before? Have any of the GM even taken a look at TE before. As far as I know the there are 4 guilds TEing, Ambrosia being biggest then Redemption, Pantsu and Animosity with KritcalKingdom roaming around with 1-3 members.

 

Ambrosia has around max most of the time so ~50. (SEA)

Redemption at ~30-40 (Mostly SEA too)

Pantsu I'd say ~20-30 (SEA)

Animosity right now at ~10 and they are the only North America based time guild.

 

Do you not even look at what you are doing? Think logically for a second, you are going to kill off your last PvP content with this one move and I swear to god if you don't move it I will stop playing this game. 


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Posted 03 November 2017 - 08:33 PM

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Posted 03 November 2017 - 09:02 PM

There has been some push to change the Chaos WoE TE Time. Upon reviewing the user count logs the current time takes place right at the beginning of server peak time. Due to this there are no plans to change the time.

 

 

Maybe people log in more often because, you know, they log in their buff slaves, warpers, suppliers, etc.. of course server logins will peak during a WoE time. Have you ever considered this might be the primary reason the population spikes at the time?

 

Like many people on this thread have already pointed out, the majority of the playerbase still doing WoE TE are from Asia. How hard is it to move it an hour earlier, to cater to that? It's on a Sunday for a majority of the people that still play, and in the middle of the night nonetheless. Your game has been dying for ages, mostly because people have been unsatisfied with how you handle issues. 


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Posted 03 November 2017 - 09:06 PM

What a meaningless survey.
I am totally upset with this.
Is it hard to adjust WOE time 1 hour earlier when DST come?
Checking logs count? You guys never attend WOE TE i guess, to see the problem by yourself.
Again, a decision made by people who dont even play the game and do down to earth approach.
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Posted 03 November 2017 - 09:26 PM

Time for a long hibernation I guess. See you guys after 6 months, that is IF WOE TE STILL EXISTS by that time LMAO.
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Posted 03 November 2017 - 10:07 PM

Have you ever attended TE before? Have any of the GM even taken a look at TE before. As far as I know the there are 4 guilds TEing, Ambrosia being biggest then Redemption, Pantsu and Animosity with KritcalKingdom roaming around with 1-3 members.

 

Ambrosia has around max most of the time so ~50. (SEA)

Redemption at ~30-40 (Mostly SEA too)

Pantsu I'd say ~20-30 (SEA)

Animosity right now at ~10 and they are the only North America based time guild.

 

Do you not even look at what you are doing? Think logically for a second, you are going to kill off your last PvP content with this one move and I swear to god if you don't move it I will stop playing this game. 

 

SEA woe TE gonna be so dead, just like the other woes. Guess Animosity will be getting castles and gods again huh.

 

Look at how "lively" the other woes are at more favourable hours for the non-SEA players.


Edited by Doomsquare, 03 November 2017 - 10:13 PM.

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Posted 03 November 2017 - 11:08 PM

 

There has been some push to change the Chaos WoE TE Time. Upon reviewing the user count logs the current time takes place right at the beginning of server peak time. Due to this there are no plans to change the time.

 

 

Hi,

 

This was the same reasoning given last year, could you give us a bit more than that?

 

  Count logs of the whole server or just those participating in TE? (It is Sunday morning in America after all)

  Of those participating in TE, how much log in from Asia, Oceania?

 

You guys should have enough data now to compare WoE TE population before, during and after DST.

 

Last year, right after the end of DST, there was a drop in WoE TE attendance. It was empty for a few weeks; it was mostly between a mainly North American guild and a guild with some Europeans in it.

 

Hope you guys reconsider.


Edited by jamdonutjam, 03 November 2017 - 11:10 PM.

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Posted 04 November 2017 - 12:42 AM

Hi,
 
This was the same reasoning given last year, could you give us a bit more than that?
 
  Count logs of the whole server or just those participating in TE? (It is Sunday morning in America after all)
  Of those participating in TE, how much log in from Asia, Oceania?
 
You guys should have enough data now to compare WoE TE population before, during and after DST.
 
Last year, right after the end of DST, there was a drop in WoE TE attendance. It was empty for a few weeks; it was mostly between a mainly North American guild and a guild with some Europeans in it.
 
Hope you guys reconsider.

Hello,
 
We based the decision going into the DST maintenance based on the historical play data of the Chaos Server on sundays over the last few months. In general the server experiences spikes of player activity in the morning and then later in the evening everyday. Unfortunately we can't see the demographic information when were viewing server population broken down over the day. So in an effort to be fair we will see how the population trends on sundays for two WoE TEs and make a second evaluation from there. If it is as you are suggesting then we should see a shift of player activity spiking one hour earlier in the day. 
 
On monday we will post the first review of how we see this affecting the population trend for WoE TE


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Posted 04 November 2017 - 01:25 AM

 

 

Is it possible to view logs on specific maps ie Gloria and Kafragarten as server population may not reflect WoE population

 

anyway, thanks for your reply camp, please enjoy your sleep


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Posted 04 November 2017 - 01:32 AM

Hello,
 
We based the decision going into the DST maintenance based on the historical play data of the Chaos Server on sundays over the last few months. In general the server experiences spikes of player activity in the morning and then later in the evening everyday. Unfortunately we can't see the demographic information when were viewing server population broken down over the day. So in an effort to be fair we will see how the population trends on sundays for two WoE TEs and make a second evaluation from there. If it is as you are suggesting then we should see a shift of player activity spiking one hour earlier in the day. 
 
On monday we will post the first review of how we see this affecting the population trend for WoE TE

 

Yeah, the amount of players posting in this thread doesn't tell you enough already. Just like how you listened to us for WoE 1/2 and look where that ended right? Keep going, lose more populations. 

 

EDIT: You've had multiple years to check up on this. Every year this issue comes up, every year you guys choose to simply ignore it. WoE 1 is dead, WoE 2 is dead, the last final PvP content of the game you guys are about to kill. How about you -_- think for a second, take a day to just watch TE and actually -_- listen to your players for once? Why is even rolling back 1 hour on WoE an issue when you can do it for Thor? Last year you guys did a survey what was the result? Nobody -_- knows, you didn't even talk about it. A year goes by you continue the same -_- the same "Well watch and see how it goes" do you just expect your this to last another -_- year? 


Edited by Diskence, 04 November 2017 - 02:05 AM.

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Posted 04 November 2017 - 02:08 AM

Hello,

As allways every year same hassle, same topic and GM's dont really care and hide behind unprooven facts trending to keep things as they were while staying lazy to change.

Goal is simple, Change WoE TE Time back 1 hr to ensure, at least some kind of regard to the majority of player's attending WoE TE.

WoE TE 2014

WoE TE 2015 & WoE TE 2015

 

WoE TE 2016

 

 


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Posted 04 November 2017 - 02:17 AM

Camp is not even listening boys. Just let it die like WoE 1 and 2. Soon it will be RIP WoE TE Nov 2017.

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Posted 04 November 2017 - 04:44 AM

Ambrosia, animosity, pantsu, redemption and some other small guild numbers that make TE lively. When even one of them took a week break, can feel it half dead n less fun. Less blood n drama to spill. Cant imagine what going to happen later. Might also just come to break empty castle everywhere
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Posted 04 November 2017 - 03:19 PM

first. jakarta is GMT +7 not -7 (yeah, we came from the future  :rice: )

second, dont lie by making it 11:59 PM sunday when its Actually 00:01 AM MONDAY

 

camp be like "we have thor for SEA Player"  :ani_shy:

 

RIP Attendance, you guys can safely break your alliance now, LOL

Im sorry for being selfish but I really dont wanna hear Nakulo screaming in the middle of the nite XD

 

 

 


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Posted 04 November 2017 - 03:42 PM

Is classic's woe time being adjusted? o.o


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Posted 04 November 2017 - 04:58 PM

psstt.. those so called surveys are just excuses to give us exp/drop events. let's make more surveys for more events :D

 

just like irl when election is coming. they give you something, hoping that you'll forget the real issue  :P


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Posted 04 November 2017 - 05:56 PM

if i am on thor what time now the woe's? i am dizzy when comes in the time time zone thing
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