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#26 PoySanity

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Posted 31 January 2018 - 08:08 PM

Greedy Sellers + Noob Buyers
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Posted 31 January 2018 - 09:35 PM

Greedy Sellers + Noob Buyers

Meh. There are greedy/lowballer buyers and noob sellers. It cancels out.


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#28 HattoriMasahige

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Posted 31 January 2018 - 10:07 PM

I remember people get bottles directly from investments. I earned quite a sum buying and selling those. Was it removed? Did everybody just stop doing investments?

 

with faceworms being tradeable for EMB, they ripd OPB prices so its not worth it anymore.


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Posted 31 January 2018 - 10:15 PM

Supply demand is beaten only by WP decisions.

 

exhibit A :

 

with faceworms being tradeable for EMB, they ripd OPB prices so its not worth it anymore.

 


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Posted 31 January 2018 - 11:08 PM

Tho seriously, the inflation was too sudden it felt like somebody dumpedd 100b++ into circulation. Until recently, only end-game gears fluctuate in prices. 


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Posted 31 January 2018 - 11:41 PM

Yeah, clearly WP caused this intentionally though they didnt dump 100b into the server like how banks can do this in real life. Just look at the HE Bubble Gum example, they charge 500kp for 10 ea, which means 50kp for 1 HE Bubble Gum. Even if KP price is as low as 15-16m, it is still 7-8m for HE Bubble Gum, while the acceptable price should be below 5m ea. I've been requesting them to consider lowering its KP cost, but of course its been conveniently ignored.

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Posted 01 February 2018 - 12:48 AM

What do you mean? What did WP do? Did they increase the price of KP items?


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Posted 01 February 2018 - 12:49 AM

Everyone is dumping all of their money into the flavor of the week OCPs with high refinement requirements. >+10 effects. Since more people can't justify keeping up their spending level with the rapid release cycle less WPE is available for other things. The price of everything is tied to WPE, therefore everything is getting more expensive proportionately. 1k WPE doesn't get you very much these days. 

 

As an example, heavy lifter boxes haven't gotten better at all and the demand for them has not increased, however a month or two ago they were vending for 50-70m. Currently they vend for 130m. The reason is a box of weight limit costs 500 WPE. Your opportunity cost is selling boxes of enriched ore (or just selling the WPE code). If you buy $10 worth, and WPE goes for 250m, you would be brain-dead to sell lifter boxes for 70m. 125 Minimum.

 

In addition OCP boxes go for 300 KP. Obviously, nobody wants to take a loss, so the floor value of an item in an OCP box would be (250k/KP) * (300 Points) or 75m. Using Algebra I, can you solve for how much 3x BMs should go for right now? Hint: There are 6 in a box. Spoiler alert, 12.5m each.

 

 

Everything ties back to WPE and the scarcity and demand of Kafra Points. As long as WP keeps up their insane release schedule for best-in-slot cash shop exclusive items, the number of whales will continue to be hunted to extinction. The supply of WPE will dry up and the demand for it will remain high.

 

And that is how to TL;DR a "supply and demand" +1 postcount response.


Edited by Scuba, 01 February 2018 - 12:51 AM.

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#34 HattoriMasahige

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Posted 01 February 2018 - 01:15 AM

and each month people quit because they dont wanna deal with this -_- as smth that was best in slot can be mediocre in 6 months from now because they spam, spam, spam, almost no improvements ingame, all from their trashboxes. Digging their own grave.


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Posted 02 February 2018 - 09:38 AM

Lol dang, can I buy one from you xD

+9HBP up because HBP isnt in KP for a long time.  i still have 25 +9HBP waiting to sell.   

 


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Posted 02 February 2018 - 02:25 PM

I mean, not that many people want to spend money on this game anymore so obviously WPE/KP prices goes up. 


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Posted 02 February 2018 - 02:43 PM

wonder how many people on classic buy WPE these days.


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Posted 02 February 2018 - 10:25 PM

Merge thor and chaos.
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Posted 02 February 2018 - 10:31 PM

Merge thor and chaos.

merge all the Ragnarok games to one full server. Jro+kro+iro+thro+pro+etc,etc


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Posted 02 February 2018 - 10:39 PM

Merge thor and chaos.

 

Really wish this happens, WoE in Thor looks amazing.


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Posted 02 February 2018 - 11:13 PM

Merge thor and chaos.

 

Merge then MvP cards in cash shop, so Pinoys can catch up with all remaining OP'ly-geared players in WoE lol


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Posted 03 February 2018 - 12:35 AM

Merge then MvP cards in cash shop, so Pinoys can catch up with all remaining OP'ly-geared players in WoE lol

 

with the other thread " regional pricing "

it's safe to say that even with MVP cards in cash shop. they wont be catching up.

 

however, it's likely that they will merge all their guilds and resources 


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Posted 04 February 2018 - 03:11 AM

^ Becareful what you say. Those people asking for that are the minority. The majority, excluding myself ofc is totally capable. :heh:

Before this thread could be cleaned or closed seeing no action given on the m word. It is safe to say that silence really means yes. :p_devil:
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Posted 04 February 2018 - 07:16 AM

idk. there is obviously lacking of wpe supplies in thor.

 

given the asking conversion rate 1k WPE = 270m? as of today

selling 3k wpe in thor you can afford :

 

2589.png +9 fallen angel wing[1]

2x2910.png Bakonawa Agimat Tattoo

 

i don't see how having mvp cards in the cashshop helps thor player gear up to chao's standard.

it's more likely that chaos will take full advantage of those mvp cards in the cashshop


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Posted 04 February 2018 - 11:44 AM

sometimes i wish zeny had an expiration date just to see the market chaos and stop the zeny hoarding XD


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Posted 04 February 2018 - 12:15 PM

Better just impose tax on every single character in game  :p_idea:  :p_hi:


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Posted 04 February 2018 - 12:58 PM

Merge thor and chaos.

 

This word is like Voldemort in this forum  :heh:

 

Watch out!  :heh:


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Posted 04 February 2018 - 06:49 PM

This word is like Voldemort in this forum  :heh:

 

Watch out!  :heh:

 

Make it happen Hissis  :p_cry:


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Posted 05 February 2018 - 11:33 AM

Probably caused by RE:Start. They fragmented the already diminishing player base, and now nobody is buying WPE on chaos, same problem just like in Thor. Facebook market is filled with people selling their accounts and zeny, dumping more money supplies into the market.

 


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Posted 06 February 2018 - 12:14 AM

merge all the Ragnarok games to one full server. Jro+kro+iro+thro+pro+etc,etc

server will explode, idro alone got more than 10k players  :heh:


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