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#76 ShoLin

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Posted 12 February 2020 - 11:19 AM

Sorry to disagree, Warpportal didnt sacrifice -_-. What is dead cant be used for sacrifice. What a disrespect. See this, Classic had been hanging around without updates and new contents for years because they had WoE. Once GDPR hit and consequently demolished WoE, they had to close Classic. It's catastrophic indeed to have to close such official Classic server. That's when they opened Re:start. Now Chaos just self-destroyed WoE, then opening a new server was an inevitable, that is, *booms!* RoT server. Cant you see the pattern? It still amazes me why some people overlook WoE important effects.

 

About RT, that's the problem we all see. If it's F2P and keep powerful Cash items in game, people will complain. However, making RoT P2P will also instantly make people quit as they dont want to be forced to pay at all. iRO folks love everything free. Warpportal is really in a deep dilemma but lets see what string they're gonna pull it through. 

 

You and I already know that ... kRO loves money. I think the reason iRO is falling behind is because updates are expensive and iRO isnot making big money lately, which is unfortunate.

 

It's not dead yet, just took another bullet.

 

Dang bro chill, if RT gets a stat reset put in soon it will be alive and kickin  :D

 

So was restart. Which got mismanaged into oblivion.

 

Screw you, nope.  Killed my body but cant obliterate my soul, damn weak iRO. Aint gonna start over again. If I wanted to, I would already start on that private server along with those folks. Gonna stay here until they merge Chaos and Thor, then I will come back. Otherwise, this is my home lmfao

 

It's not going to happen get over it. The communities are in two different time zones, get that through your head.

 

Please don't even jokingly shame people for playing the game.

 

There are no plans to close Chaos or Thor at this time. I do however very much see that they need a lot of attention and we pushing to get bother servers updates and changes that they need. We have started to receive the data for the April update already which is amazingly early and will give a lot of extra time. I will have the Advanced Old Glast Heim items ready for testing this week and move forward with testing some other settings that are important for the long term health of the server.


GTB will not be on the server.

 

We need to know your long term plans. If it's an update every 4 months, that's far too slow. We'll still be years behind kRO. Why is kRO treating iRO so poorly? Getting one update quarterly? Are we suppose to be jumping up and down for joy?

 

 

Honestly, what needs to happen is the NA branch of Gravity needs to buy itself out of the Korean/Japanese branches, and do it's own thing.  Them being controlled as they are now is what's putting us SO FAR behind the other servers, and killing the game.  It's honestly sad, when the private servers are only a few months behind the official kRO/jRO servers with episode updates and mechanic updates, while we're 2+ years behind, and only get mechanics nerfs to our abilities/items, without the fixes for them to balance out that nerf(Impending melee reflected damage not triggering autocast spells is a great example).  I love this game, and have played it for going on 9 years now, but you guys really need to step it up, because the server is pretty much dead now.  Your decision to ignore the GDRP changes 2 years in advance cost you 1/3 the player base as it is, and the EAC update + making homunc completely useless has dropped the population even further.  I can understand the need for an anti-bot/cheat system, but you could have AT LEAST incorporated the functions from AzzyAI into the game's base homunculus functions, and same for mercenary functions.  

 

And another thing.  Everything for the past 5 years or so has been pay to win.  All of these OCP's have honestly ruined the game.  I like a lot of the items, but making them pay to win was a dumb move.  You would have A) made a lot more money if you'd have made them quest related/farmable/craftable, and left only the mad bunny Elu/Ori boxes in the shop, because you'd have gotten more ppl to buy those to upgrade their gear, and have more ppl playing to farm up the stuff needed to craft those types of gears.   B) The new VIP system per character is ~ the same as the original VIP, but you DO owe those of us who paid for the new one compensation for the past 10 days, because we have NOT received full benefits from it, which includes the NPC functions we are entitled to, andthe death penalty change(that was one of the main reasons FOR VIP).  As I stated before, those changes earlier on would have made you SO MUCH MORE money, and had a MUCH happier player base.

 

I truly hope that you will all seriously rethink your marketing strategy, as well as the future roadmap for the game, because your game is sinking really fast, and the playerbase has been throwing you suggestions like life preservers like crazy, but you still refuse to reach out...

 

I've been preaching this for years. They can't change their marketing. As they'd have to go to subscription and we know the player base can't support that. If they'd of listened years ago we wouldn't be where we are now.

 

The lynching of homunculus attacking AI doesn't bother me. The movement AI being dumb as bricks does bug me.

 

Reflect levelers hog mobs and should of been taken out years ago.

 

 

 

 

 


Edited by ShoLin, 12 February 2020 - 11:29 AM.

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Posted 12 February 2020 - 11:29 AM

Well support ragial = support botting, and ppls need to get out of the 'comfort zone', maybe try not to play the 'political correctness' card okay? Its not very interesting at all. Also no need to mention how you are a veteran of RAG, it doesnt make you in any way more superior to newbies. I played the pre-renewal server back in 2003-2004, never acted like it made me more special than the renewal players and newcomers.

 

Oh yeah you said you aint speaking for the community, but you said 'no one cares' when its only that you dont care. Apparently you have failed to understand the impact of losing ragial without a good alternative, clearly its too hard for your mind to understand. But anyway, at least do a better research before making a bold statement so you make a less fool of yourself next time.

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Like my good friend Ygg says, I rather have ragial and bots than what we currently have.

 

If WP doesn't want any bots, then to implement some sort of market via the web. I can't believe that p.serves are able to do this but a company with employees and millions of dollars can't.

 

The problem with ragial is that it is run by one single person, and when he quitts, ragial might stop working unless he maintains it. Also, I believe Renou might have quit? since I don't see his slim shop but who knows.


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Posted 12 February 2020 - 11:32 AM

kRO has its own ragial kRO doesn't give two -_-s about us, so we're never going to get it or it'll take years.


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Posted 12 February 2020 - 11:55 AM

Like my good friend Ygg says, I rather have ragial and bots than what we currently have.

 

If WP doesn't want any bots, then to implement some sort of market via the web. I can't believe that p.serves are able to do this but a company with employees and millions of dollars can't.

 

The problem with ragial is that it is run by one single person, and when he quitts, ragial might stop working unless he maintains it. Also, I believe Renou might have quit? since I don't see his slim shop but who knows.

 

Yeah the issue here is that, we dont have a good alternative for ragial. If theres such a thing like exchange NPC in ROM, or the marketplace webpage implemented on various pservers(or illegal servers whatever WP calls them), then we can accept the loss of ragial easily. Falling back to the shopping board, or just explore manually is a serious downgrade, and its an unsatisfactory solution to this problem.

 

I've actually pmed renouille saying that I am willing to help with coding and maintaining of ropd/ragial, if he/she is willing to keep it alive for 2-3 more months for me to find a solution to make it work like before. Unfortunately, I've gotten no response for my message, I think renouille doesnt even look at PMs from Discord or WP forums at all nowadays. Apparently we cannot count on anything useful from Gravity/kRO, so It seems that the only solution we have is to make a new ragial unless somehow renouille will read my message and agree to cooperate.


Edited by LordYggdrasill, 12 February 2020 - 11:56 AM.

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#80 nyyaan

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Posted 12 February 2020 - 01:04 PM

It's not dead yet, just took another bullet.

It's not going to happen get over it. The communities are in two different time zones, get that through your head.


Definitely not dead yet. One guild taking 26 castles. Maybe you're right. WoE ain't dead. Just that one guild is so powerful xD Are you talking about WoE TE?

I will get over the merge when you get over Chaos PvM. Cant blame you. -_- is hitting Chaos hard. I wonder why hahaha

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Posted 12 February 2020 - 01:08 PM

It's not dead yet, just took another bullet.

 

 

So was restart. Which got mismanaged into oblivion.

 

 

It's not going to happen get over it. The communities are in two different time zones, get that through your head.

 

 

We need to know your long term plans. If it's an update every 4 months, that's far too slow. We'll still be years behind kRO. Why is kRO treating iRO so poorly? Getting one update quarterly? Are we suppose to be jumping up and down for joy?

 

 

 

I've been preaching this for years. They can't change their marketing. As they'd have to go to subscription and we know the player base can't support that. If they'd of listened years ago we wouldn't be where we are now.

 

The lynching of homunculus attacking AI doesn't bother me. The movement AI being dumb as bricks does bug me.

 

Reflect levelers hog mobs and should of been taken out years ago.

Reflect leveling is the same as leveling in general.  What they need to do is make a fix for the AFK leveling.  OR give ALL 1st/2nd job classes access to at least 1 skill that is not locked behind a job level locked quest (ex. Cart rev) early on, to actually kill with AOE, instead of the single target bs for mobby maps with a dying server pop.


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Posted 12 February 2020 - 01:17 PM

Been playing for years... i never post in forum cause i dont have much to say anyway. But this time its different...
Iro is dying, population is low and nobody is doing even Low TI like old days and that was so much fun. The game still fun, but god damn the administration of Warpportal for Ragnarok is so awful.

I know many people that love this game more than any other game ever released. If you guys need more money to do your job right then just ask for donations for god sake, most of the population here

aint jobless 15 years old. I am sure most of us would donate to have better things for the server. But you guys need to pull your -_- together and start listening to the people before everyone move to private servers.

 

BTW i know that you guys wait for updates and dont have full control over the development, but find solutions, that is your job, our job as players is to play this and give you guys money and hell we have and we will keep it doing if you guys do SOMETHING.


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Posted 12 February 2020 - 01:39 PM

Well support ragial = support botting, and ppls need to get out of the 'comfort zone', maybe try not to play the 'political correctness' card okay? Its not very interesting at all. Also no need to mention how you are a veteran of RAG, it doesnt make you in any way more superior to newbies. I played the pre-renewal server back in 2003-2004, never acted like it made me more special than the renewal players and newcomers.

 

Oh yeah you said you aint speaking for the community, but you said 'no one cares' when its only that you dont care. Apparently you have failed to understand the impact of losing ragial without a good alternative, clearly its too hard for your mind to understand. But anyway, at least do a better research before making a bold statement so you make a less fool of yourself next time.

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there is nothing we can do about accommodated people who don't mind seeing the server fall from disgrace,just to feed your selfishness, but trying ban bots, we can try. :no1:  if the ragial falls to make it happen, so be it :kis:
 
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by a server without bot/cheaters  :gawi:  :gawi:
 
 
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Posted 12 February 2020 - 01:50 PM

Definitely not dead yet. One guild taking 26 castles. Maybe you're right. WoE ain't dead. Just that one guild is so powerful xD Are you talking about WoE TE?

I will get over the merge when you get over Chaos PvM. Cant blame you. -_- is hitting Chaos hard. I wonder why hahaha

 

WoE is dead, chaos itself isn't yet. Chaos coming back is possible, merging thor and choas is not.

 

Reflect leveling is the same as leveling in general.  What they need to do is make a fix for the AFK leveling.  OR give ALL 1st/2nd job classes access to at least 1 skill that is not locked behind a job level locked quest (ex. Cart rev) early on, to actually kill with AOE, instead of the single target bs for mobby maps with a dying server pop.

 

 

No it isn't. First, one reflect leveling person can hold a mob for quite some time. Second, there is no pride in leveling with no effort. People want to benefit and do nothing. Homonculus was the only exception and that's now fixed. Do you know anything about the game? The only real classes that are sol'ed are performers and monks. Even then, monks can get soul link for AOE. It's bloody renewal, how long does it take to get to job 35 and get a few items?

 

Been playing for years... i never post in forum cause i dont have much to say anyway. But this time its different...
Iro is dying, population is low and nobody is doing even Low TI like old days and that was so much fun. The game still fun, but god damn the administration of Warpportal for Ragnarok is so awful.

I know many people that love this game more than any other game ever released. If you guys need more money to do your job right then just ask for donations for god sake, most of the population here

aint jobless 15 years old. I am sure most of us would donate to have better things for the server. But you guys need to pull your -_- together and start listening to the people before everyone move to private servers.

 

BTW i know that you guys wait for updates and dont have full control over the development, but find solutions, that is your job, our job as players is to play this and give you guys money and hell we have and we will keep it doing if you guys do SOMETHING.

 

Why would I donate to a company that doesn't deliver? If everything was done properly they wouldn't have to ask for donations. 

 

Who's at fault? kRO or iRO? Both haven't claimed fault, so they are both to blame.

 

 

 

 

there is nothing we can do about accommodated people who don't mind seeing the server fall from disgrace,just to feed your selfishness, but trying ban bots, we can try.  :no1:  if the ragial falls to make it happen, so be it  :kis:
 
cry is free kid!  :heh:
 
by a server without bot/cheaters   :gawi:   :gawi:
 
 
PS: I never tried to be more than anyone, if you understood something wrong, what can I do...??  :ani_swt3:

 

The problem isn't ragial is gone. It's that kRO has their own in house ragial and they tell us to go  -_- ourselves.

 

 

 

Seriously, this is a bloody meme at this point.

 

https://forums.warpp...-fallen-behind/


Edited by ShoLin, 12 February 2020 - 01:58 PM.

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Posted 12 February 2020 - 01:59 PM

 

there is nothing we can do about accommodated people who don't mind seeing the server fall from disgrace,just to feed your selfishness, but trying ban bots, we can try. :no1:  if the ragial falls to make it happen, so be it :kis:
 
cry is free kid! :heh:
 
by a server without bot/cheaters  :gawi:  :gawi:
 
 
PS: I never tried to be more than anyone, if you understood something wrong, what can I do...?? :ani_swt3:

 

 

Oh selfishness, really? More like you are the selfish one here since you are only stating your own biased opinion and making it sound like the entire community have to agree with you. Yeah cry is free, so you can cry loudly when bots begin infiltrating the server even with EAC. Cant help with your delusion that EAC is capable of killing off bots for good, a lot of ppls have mentioned that and you clearly dont know how to read.

 

Oh yeah, no need to deny that you never meant to look special, your every word so far has demonstrated that you felt superior 'cause you were a veteran. Actually, most of the ppls still playing Renewal are veterans, and not many really take it as some kind of social status to brag about. You can keep trying, but that will not help make you less like a fool.


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Posted 12 February 2020 - 02:00 PM

People keep bringing up that KRO has their own version of ragial on their homepage but for how long did KRO have their own ragial and when did ragial first come up? Did KRO make their own version of ragial or did ragial make their own version of KRO website?


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Posted 12 February 2020 - 02:05 PM

OCP made me so powerful but I have no one to play with huhu.
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Posted 12 February 2020 - 02:05 PM

 

 

The problem isn't ragial is gone. It's that kRO has their own in house ragial and they tell us to go  -_- ourselves.

 

 

the point is to try to make suggestions, in search of improving, we can fight for it, we cannot be selfish, because it will only make the situation worse.

 

ex: if you look, any beginner/noob can level up in spore monster, among farm some maps and other things.

 

before impossible!   :pif:


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Posted 12 February 2020 - 02:05 PM

People keep bringing up that KRO has their own version of ragial on their homepage but for how long did KRO have their own ragial and when did ragial first come up? Did KRO make their own version of ragial or did ragial make their own version of KRO website?

 

If I read ZeroTigeress' post right 2014


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Posted 12 February 2020 - 02:10 PM

If I read ZeroTigeress' post right 2014

 

Ok and when did ragial first come up? 2012?


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Posted 12 February 2020 - 02:15 PM

WoE is dead, chaos itself isn't yet. Chaos coming back is possible, merging thor and choas is not.


Nah because WoE is dead, so there is no Chaos coming back. There isnt a server that survives without WoE but there are many servers that survive without PvM. As I already explained by they needed to open RoT.
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Posted 12 February 2020 - 02:17 PM

Let's simmer down please, exchanging insults doesn't help the ongoing argument. Try to respond with an appropriate manner instead.


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Posted 12 February 2020 - 02:20 PM

Ok and when did ragial first come up? 2012?

 

So? What does that have to do with kRO not giving us their official version? It'd be better than ragial as it can be real time, rather than a bot running through towns.

 

 

 

Nah because WoE is dead, so there is no Chaos coming back. There isnt a server that survives without WoE but there are many servers that survive without PvM. As I already explained by they needed to open RoT.

 

The numbers say other wise. Leaving the server for two months is what killed it. WoE was dead long before. It was 1v1


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Posted 12 February 2020 - 02:25 PM

So? What does that have to do with kRO not giving us their official version?

 

 

The numbers say other wise.

 

Chill was just asking when did both come out  :heh:. Seems KRO adopted their own version if the dates are right but yea KRO should have known with EAC update ragial wont work for us they could have given us the Official version.


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Posted 12 February 2020 - 02:33 PM

Chill was just asking when did both come out  :heh:. Seems KRO adopted their own version if the dates are right but yea KRO should have known with EAC update ragial wont work for us they could have given us the Official version.

 

Because it's a moot question.

 

They had plenty of time to give us a web based market search.


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Posted 12 February 2020 - 02:39 PM

Gonna throw in my nickel here. Thing was with Chaos and why I quit playing RO was my only char was just a FS Priest. Everyone else had their own pocket dual-clienting priests, which made just making one so pointless and difficult to party with. Plus the server has been there for so many years and it was hard to catch up with everyone. Zeny on items was skyrocketing.

 

When Poring (First RO:T server) opened up, it gave me an opportunity to start anew, even if I don't touch Chaos anymore and had to start over with everything. It was still worth it in my opinion.


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Posted 12 February 2020 - 02:56 PM

The numbers say other wise. Leaving the server for two months is what killed it. WoE was dead long before. It was 1v1


But they had to leave Chaos for two months because there was no WoE and hence no future ha

WoE is dead or not is subjective. As long as it's still 1v1 or so it's not dead to me. However we know for a fact that Classic ran for years without PvM updates even Classic WoE was small. Same goes to Thor. Its unfortunate for Thor that the server also had to be closed for two months because Chaos messed up it's own WoE.

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Posted 12 February 2020 - 05:38 PM

Let's simmer down please, exchanging insults doesn't help the ongoing argument. Try to respond with an appropriate manner instead.


People mad ,Even me. Maybe no one really care anymore
one who only talk about WOE(that still bug wtf) another talking about ragial that useful than useless shopping board
Also one that must not bug like renewal instance

And still we didnt saw any reason why it need to close 2 month. If it just copy paste no new event no new content and broken vip service
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Posted 12 February 2020 - 05:47 PM

People keep bringing up that KRO has their own version of ragial on their homepage but for how long did KRO have their own ragial and when did ragial first come up? Did KRO make their own version of ragial or did ragial make their own version of KRO website?

 

Ragial is fan made. It was not developed by WP.


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Posted 12 February 2020 - 06:08 PM

Ragial is fan made. It was not developed by WP.

 

I never said it was? I know its fanmade and why it went down. I was talking about which came first.


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