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Poll: RT View of third classes (258 member(s) have cast votes)

I view third classes as being a ______ influence to the RT server.

  1. Positive (44 votes [17.05%])

    Percentage of vote: 17.05%

  2. Neutral (15 votes [5.81%])

    Percentage of vote: 5.81%

  3. Negative (199 votes [77.13%])

    Percentage of vote: 77.13%

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#26 SilverInferno93

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Posted 17 September 2020 - 11:37 AM

The studio is wrong, 95% of the population is playing this server BECAUSE there are no third jobs. There is so much wrong with third classes; I don't even know where to begin.

 

Having 2 different servers appeals to 2 different audiences for people to pick what they prefer. Blending them together makes no sense for Warpportal and gives players no choice, it's a lose-lose situation.

 

The next update on the Transcendence server should be lvl 120 in 4-6 months or so (without 3rd jobs).

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#27 Varignon

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Posted 17 September 2020 - 11:37 AM

3rd class with no bounty boards. Just go back to Renewal servers. Don't waste time leveling for 3rd job when you have already at Renewal servers. I thought RT will be same as RO:Zero of kRO.
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#28 macedinho

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Posted 17 September 2020 - 11:40 AM

Nooo 3rd
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#29 doczoord

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Posted 17 September 2020 - 11:40 AM

Third Classes is not ragnarok, it was something that you created and got lost along the way. Most only play on this server because they don't have third classes.

 

If that happens, the server will only die faster.


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#30 Enzostz

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Posted 17 September 2020 - 11:42 AM

 

The studio firmly believes that the best route moving forward is to implement third-jobs and follow an update plan similar to the Renewal servers. Since we know that the system implemented now might be unappealing to the RT community, we want to take the opportunity over the next few weeks to gather user feedback regarding the system, so as to make adjustments to fit the RT community's expectations.

 


We DO NOT want 3rd classes at RT.


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#31 thecoxas

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Posted 17 September 2020 - 11:44 AM

I believe that it is absolutely clear that most of the players don't want the 3rd jobs. It has to be clear to you that the implementation of 3rd jobs would be the nail at the coffin for this server.

So what can you do without the 3rd jobs and content?

First of all, there are still good content from the 2nd jobs to be implemented so you still have a little time to think of new content to bring.

I suggets you guys come up with new content, yes, create something actually knew. This server is realy different from others just because of the bonus on equipment and the balanced skills, so new maps, monsters, quest, dungeons, instances and so on, can be created to add life to the game.

You guys can post the development of such content so players dont be concerned and can have a voice on your choices. 

Remember, the ragnarok community is starving for new content for years and years, and all this time have been spending money on the same things over and over again, if you implement new good content Im sure people will just throw all their money into this game, and more people will come to play here.

Other thing you have to keep in mind, a lot of people dont play here because thay cant create accounts, so maybe if you want people to play your game you should allow them to play it....


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#32 Hrishi

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Posted 17 September 2020 - 11:47 AM

I cannot speak for everybody but I'm personally interested in playing on this server because of the lack of 3rd jobs. The studio is wrong. If they do get implemented you will see an exodus of players.

 

3rd classes turn the game on it's head. I like the class design of trans-classes (and pre-trans classes) and dislike the homogenization that 3rd classes brought to the game. RO is not like other MMORPGs on the market, but 3rd jobs tried to make it so. But a lot of us play RO BECAUSE it's unique and not like other MMORPGs.

 

Please do not ever implement 3rd classes on this server.


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#33 SettlerofCatan

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Posted 17 September 2020 - 11:50 AM

If we're not going 3rd classes, just make a classic server then. Fixed cast time on trans skills and non trans skills is extremely limiting

 

 


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#34 WesternGrace

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Posted 17 September 2020 - 11:52 AM

Expanded classes, Gunslinger, Taekwon, Soul Linker please!


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#35 zynich

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Posted 17 September 2020 - 11:53 AM

Don't put 3rd on that server, it doesn't make sense. The proposal of this server was to be a thing and they are thinking completely the opposite.

 

Please take a look in: https://roz.gnjoy.co...hval=&curpage=1 to inspire development staff and studio a little

to inspire development staff a little


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#36 Glonfel2

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Posted 17 September 2020 - 11:56 AM

No 3rd please?
if we wanted to play 3rd classes we would just play in Chaos server, if u guys are planning to put 3rd just merge the server with chaos already, it will save us time to quit faster


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#37 serkjreil

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Posted 17 September 2020 - 11:56 AM

Personally, I would not like the 3rd jobs implemented because of how it changes the whole RO gameplay/experience. I agree with others on saying to add more content (I really like the battlegrounds or some sort of pvp with rewards). I think having the 2nd jobs implemented is a good start and for most people I know; they would like to continue to keep it that way. Thank you all for your hard work!  :D


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#38 zighue

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Posted 17 September 2020 - 12:00 PM

wtf 3rd? please not


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#39 DeltaRay

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Posted 17 September 2020 - 12:01 PM

Honestly 3rd jobs are highly disbalanced a good chunk of people only play for trans WOE really, Im more concerned about where the studio is getting all their info alot of us dont want 3rd jobs


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#40 TommyHX

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Posted 17 September 2020 - 12:02 PM

kRO zero already expanded into level 130/70 trans classes on their new update. the majority of the community is interested to play this server because it has alot of similarities to the zero server. please do not go the 3rd job path. 

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#41 Crimiss

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Posted 17 September 2020 - 12:05 PM

 

The studio firmly believes that the best route moving forward is to implement third-jobs and follow an update plan similar to the Renewal servers.

 

The timeline for this would be late October and into November.

 

I'm quitting, effective immediately. Put 3rd classes, don't put 3rd classes, I don't care either way.

 

The mere fact that "the studio" can look at this server and withdraw as conclusion that 3rd jobs is a correct movement, has put me on an eternal insecurity state from now on.

 

Even if the community wins this fight (which it won't, because it never does), I don't know how long until the next destructive surprise shows up, and slowly contaminates the scenery.

 

If you want a more reasoned and argued response, in spite of just saying:

 

Spoiler

 

Then i'll just leave at:

 

 

1. The leveling is bad without turn-in.

 

2. The leveling is bad without old-fashioned Magic Strings.

 

3. The leveling is bad for solo-players because we don't have "classical cash items" such as Rideword Hat.

 

4. PvP is bad because of huge fix cast times. If you try to solve this uncautiously, you give the players too much damage.

 

5. Some classes won't barely change unless their gear coherence changes drastically. If you try to solve this uncautiously, you give the players too much damage. i.e.

 

There is effectively zero difference between a Minstrel, a Maestro, and a Bard. This is completely false, however, for a Mechanic.

 

6. Self-Destruction is BROKEN.

 

We can argue on SD, because there are many factors: Respawn management, hiding, safety wall, stopping the mechanic in an easier way because of SD's AoE. And even if I point that out as devil's advocate, it's still a really, really unpopular opinion.

 

7. Stasis is broken. Period. PERIOD.

 

Even if you are on the top 1% of the game's playerskill and you KNOW how to deal with Stasis, it simply does not make the game better. It's like a serial killer lurking in your front-yard. If you are extremely successful in avoiding it, it still means that you go through an entire safety-net process that is dull, boring, makes you more vulnerable to other ailments, when it should simply not exist at all.

 

8. There are gaps of balance that would require entire episodes to fix them. Notoriously, the fact that Vellum Bible is extremely important to an Arch Bishop answer the threats of a Shadow Chaser before his/her guild, yet Shadow Chaser on day 1 is one of the strongest classes.

 

9. None of the 1.0 Castle sizes support the dimensions that a 3rd class skirmish gets. Only some floors. Try striking a defense as 3rd classes on Brit4 and see what happens.

 

10. Hallucination Drug is cancer.

 

 

... to name a few.


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#42 LeoDiCaprio

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Posted 17 September 2020 - 12:07 PM

Bring 3rds, please :)


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#43 6709141008054007793

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Posted 17 September 2020 - 12:07 PM

Mass quit, if u want to merge servers do it. 

nobody who plays this server wants 3rd


nobody who plays this server wants 3rd


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#44 caiolemosttt

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Posted 17 September 2020 - 12:07 PM


 

The studio firmly believes that the best route moving forward is to implement third-jobs and follow an update plan similar to the Renewal servers.

 

 

whats the point? srsly???

 

Always seems like the studio simply have no idea about whats happening in this server. Its a different type of game and we are here to play a whole different mechanic from 3rd.
So pls, dont implement 3rd on TRANSCENDENCE <

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the most bizarre thing of all this is the fact that the studio is concerned with something so distant but not concerned with making CONTENTS available about the new updates, since this server has different mechanics than any other server.

instead lets talk about expanded class
 

 


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#45 aTID2

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Posted 17 September 2020 - 12:07 PM

no for 3rd classes. 

 

Then RT will be pretty like Renewal server but with less content?  :hmm:  (But WP can manage easier ,tbh Studio may saw that too)

 

I thinks RT need is content and variety of equipment. (Specific equipment for RT server only)

 

Now we struck with Frenzy equipment and Perfect options from Ranked Blacksmith.

 

There also some mechanic that kRO zero have like 

 

- More def on refinement, so we can simply put new instance that got 3rd classes power level.

- More level cap, It pretty essential for multi-build and more on mixing equipment.

 

WP can make level 99+ and higher using Super high exp to level up. RT server need to slowing down and making player experience the worth of leveling.  :ok:

 


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#46 MikeSagara

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Posted 17 September 2020 - 12:11 PM

3rd jobs?

 

Time to delete my account, thanks !


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#47 mussgo

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Posted 17 September 2020 - 12:14 PM

3rd jobs? thank you next


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#48 Rezar

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Posted 17 September 2020 - 12:14 PM

@Camp Even if the studio forced you to move RT to 3rd classes several  months out instead of oct-nov, that's still going to deter alot of people from continuing to playing including myself. I wish I had seen this topic before...I had my character sitting in juno ready to trans but after reading your post, I may just abandon RT...sad

 

So here is my actionable feedback:

 

The introduction of RT for me and probably others, brought us back to a time where we enjoyed Ragnarok with second classes only. With the introduction to trans, It gave us enough of an upgrade to get excited about our classes without the advanced skills that 3rd jobs have. Call it nostalgic or whatever you want. 

 

 


Edited by Rezar, 17 September 2020 - 12:50 PM.

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Posted 17 September 2020 - 12:16 PM

 

Hey Folks,

With the arrival of Transcendence Jobs to Ragnarok Transcendence, we have to start looking at what's next for the service. Since the start of the server, we have been working with the studio in order to plan the post-transcendence update leveling-scheme for RT.

 

The studio firmly believes that the best route moving forward is to implement third-jobs

 

As others have said if we wanted 3rd jobs we would be playing on chaos, as much as i hate to admit it Aaron is right, if the plan is to add 3rd jobs then I'm done with RT, no ifs ands or buts I'm done.

 

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#50 RTLey

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Posted 17 September 2020 - 12:17 PM

Lmao at all the people crying about third job. There's so many options who want purely 99/70 for the rest of eternity. Regardless of that fact, not a single one of you read the first post regarding crying about third job.
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