True, but as far as a clerics role is compared to an Artisan, clerics are even more lowly and have an even more focused primary role than an Artisan, which still makes them the weaker vessel I'll rephrase myself too. Clerics aren't 'created' for pvp, but they can be 'built' for pvp. I worded myself wrong. Created, and built are different words, my mistake.
Clerics are more lowly???? So the cleric role is more lowly than all others in game? I am hoping english is not your first language and you didn't really mean that. And actually they really can't be built for PVP now. They used to be able to, but now....not so much. People can try and some succeed to a degree but in reality they are very weak. The best thing they have at this point is a few stuns and heals.
Secondly, you are not a developer and do not work for Gravity I am assuming so how can you speak for them? Not that we know who you are since you do not post that. I understand what Calanor is saying, but that doesn't mean the concept of the cleric can't change or some of the suggestions will be ignored.
Thirdly, this is the proposal and suggestion section. It is ok for all other classes to post suggestions for improvements to their class but when clerics do it we get the whole "that is not your job, you should not be that way, etc." Well that is BS. We are posting suggestions and having a discussion on things we think might make game play more interesting for Full Support Clerics, Attack Clerics and Hybrids. They are mearly suggestions. Do you own a cleric? Use it in all aspects of the game - PVM solo, PVM party, UW, TG, etc? A lot of people have clerics but use them for their own buff slave. There are others of us who use cleric as their main account.
And last but not least, in PVM we are not very good at monsters our level. If we had to farm solo with a full support build we would remain very low level and it would take forever to get any exp,(especially since we get less exp now). So people say well of course....you have to party. But I hate to leech and not being able to kill well makes me feel like a leech. Yes, I help suppost the party with buffs and heals but still, we constantly get accused of leeching. I have even had people say that the cleric should not get equal drops since we don't do much. I do not like to feel like a servant or slave and should not be put in that "lowly" position.