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[MagicHands]

The only problem i see using deep sleep is with maestros using it through walls. Our precast was broken a few times just because he could hit the entire precast through the wall.

[Mefistofeles]

The only problem i see using deep sleep is with maestros using it through walls. Our precast was broken a few times just because he could hit the entire precast through the wall.

good point, put it in maestro feedback, i hope gms could fix it(becouse if they cant fix it they will ban the skill from woe)

[iCandy]

The only problem i see using deep sleep is with maestros using it through walls. Our precast was broken a few times just because he could hit the entire precast through the wall.

errmm... I think this is a strategy issue don't you think? I think you need to change our strategy if that's the case...

[Braska]

Shouldn't really be able to cast through walls to begin with lol

PS. I'm not saying i agree with not making DSL usable. I'm just saying it shouldn't be able to be casted through walls.

Edited by Braska, 04 June 2011 - 02:13 PM.

[Sapphic]

Frost Joke / Dazzler always worked through walls.

[Braska]

both can be resisted though!

[Myzery]

You can become easily immune to both with the way stats work now. They need DSL to be even mildly effective and there's quite a few counters coming down the pipeline.

[iCandy]

You can become easily immune to both with the way stats work now. They need DSL to be even mildly effective and there's quite a few counters coming down the pipeline.

Thats why it's pointless to nerf DSL. because IMO I cannot find any exploits for it.
1. it can be countered by another maestro (also by AB on the upcoming patch)
2. it affects allies. hence, it is not that spammable unless you want your allies (outside the party) effed up.

Edited by iCandy, 04 June 2011 - 01:00 PM.

[renouille]

I wish it worked on non-PVP maps.

[FiskBlack]

I wish it worked on non-PVP maps.

Same as arrullo, but those skills are made for WoE/PvP right..? Nothing else, as GM's are trying to tell us...

[Clogon]

I wish it worked on non-PVP maps.

Read kRO's April 13th patch notes.

[Faolain]

Same as arrullo, but those skills are made for WoE/PvP right..? Nothing else, as GM's are trying to tell us...

Have I ever mentioned that your signature and avatar are awesome? /offtopic

/ontopic This is hillarious. Dear Gravity,

Nerf rock. Paper is fine. Sincerely scissors.

[DeathDealer]

wtf is up with people saying DSL is the ONLY useful skill musicians have? THey have a long list of skills that are far more useful than most classes. Bad argument for re-enabling DSL i think.

[Dukeares]

Nerf Sura...Nerf Deep sleep. Nerf Backsliding, Nerf Ninja , Nerf Royal Guard, Nerg Ranger.Ops i forgot Ranger already been Nerf...

[Mefistofeles]

Nerf Sura...Nerf Deep sleep. Nerf Backsliding, Nerf Ninja , Nerf Royal Guard, Nerg Ranger.Ops i forgot Ranger already been Nerf...

agree, also the maestro its uber nerfed, i always posting suggetions for maestros and rangers in renewal feedback, but no 1 help me

[dazze]

wtf is up with people saying DSL is the ONLY useful skill musicians have? THey have a long list of skills that are far more useful than most classes. Bad argument for re-enabling DSL i think.

ok, here is a breakdown of maestro skills.

Sirens Voice = Keeps musicians from being targeted. This skill basically keeps us alive. This skill does not benefit other players in the party, except when breaking emp in woe.
Harmonize = takes away + stats. In short, neutralize characters with god items.
Song of despair= like ankle snare
Dances of wargs = decreases fixed cast time. Can't really use this because it does not stack with Sacrament
Other duet skills= more support, need other maestro classes.
Severe Rainstorm = does severe damage, not really useful in woe, or GD.

Deep Sleep Lullaby= puts characters to sleep in a certain amount of area. This skill is THE only offensive/defensive skill that maestro's can use to support a party or themselves.

Now, tell me..If DSL is disabled, what more can musicians do?

[Viri]

Remake to a new class, obviously. If your class is targetted by the whine squad you might as well just remake because heim listens to them unconditionally.

[Mefistofeles]

ok, here is a breakdown of maestro skills.

Sirens Voice = Keeps musicians from being targeted. This skill basically keeps us alive. This skill does not benefit other players in the party, except when breaking emp in woe.
Harmonize = takes away + stats. In short, neutralize characters with god items.
Song of despair= like ankle snare
Dances of wargs = decreases fixed cast time. Can't really use this because it does not stack with Sacrament
Other duet skills= more support, need other maestro classes.
Severe Rainstorm = does severe damage, not really useful in woe, or GD.

Deep Sleep Lullaby= puts characters to sleep in a certain amount of area. This skill is THE only offensive/defensive skill that maestro's can use to support a party or themselves.

Now, tell me..If DSL is disabled, what more can musicians do?

the retarded problem with deep sleep lullaby that i been asking since renewal started to fix it, its the bug where party menbers and guildmates are affected by deep sleep lullaby........ and song of despair have loooooooooooooooonger cast time than ankle snare

[iCandy]

Remake to a new class, obviously. If your class is targetted by the whine squad you might as well just remake because heim listens to them unconditionally.

tsk tsk... If nerfing continues, the performer class population will keep on decreasing... for the record, there are only 16 Maestros above 120 in Valk (6 level 150) compared to 22 Level 150 Suras (93 above level 120)
source: ROPD

Edited by iCandy, 06 June 2011 - 08:02 AM.

[Kadelia]

What I find funny is that deep sleep lullaby, harmonize, circle of nature, song of despair, etc, are riddled with bugs, probably because Gravity didn't playtest performers at all. Its obvious they don't give a care about performers or the class wouldn't be so gimped and bug ridden. Just about every performer skill has a bug that makes the skill necessary to be disabled in either pvp or pvm. It's ridiculous. This class needs to be redesigned from the ground up.

Also if maestro wasn't poorly created enough, gravity HATES women. Wanderer doesn't even have the magic strings, harmonize, windmill rush, or berserk guitar etc that form the majority of the maestro's usefulness outside of DSL. If gravity got married, its wife would have 3 black eyes.

Edited by Jaye, 06 June 2011 - 09:41 AM.

[Xellie]

What I find funny is that deep sleep lullaby, harmonize, circle of nature, song of despair, etc, are riddled with bugs, probably because Gravity didn't playtest performers at all. Its obvious they don't give a care about performers or the class wouldn't be so gimped and bug ridden. Just about every performer skill has a bug that makes the skill necessary to be disabled in either pvp or pvm. It's ridiculous. This class needs to be redesigned from the ground up.

Also if maestro wasn't poorly created enough, gravity HATES women. Wanderer doesn't even have the magic strings, harmonize, windmill rush, or berserk guitar etc that form the majority of the maestro's usefulness outside of DSL. If gravity got married, its wife would have 3 black eyes.

Also if maestro wasn't poorly created enough, gravity HATES women. Wanderer doesn't even have the magic strings, harmonize, windmill rush, or berserk guitar etc that form the majority of the maestro's usefulness outside of DSL. If gravity got married, its wife would have 3 black eyes.

gravity HATES women.

Ahahaha

[Fibrizzo]

^Indeed

Look at those awfull Kafras...