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[Luckywhiterabbit]

Update on my Dieter. You can see how it's ASPD jumped up quite a bit from lv 99

[iiNote]

Update on my Dieter. You can see how it's ASPD jumped up quite a bit from lv 99

It's a pretty nice ASPD o.o

[CeruleanGamer]

For Dieter, ASPD doesn't really matter because once it's level 122, it will just level up like crazy with Magma Flow.

[Luckywhiterabbit]

It's leveling up like crazy with just lava slide. This thing never auto-attacks anymore.

I'm mobbing piranhas in brasilis, and when I get bored of that, I go to orc 2 (which is more or less empty on valk) and mob up EVERY skeleton and dranliar on the map, which gets me about 1.5% or so each time, I think.

[novalkar]

https://docs.google....MTUxbVhzY2l2ZGc

My "Amistr->Sera" reached 119 today and most of her stats are 150, she has awesome HP (20.2k ^^) but i'm worried about her INT...

Right now she has 81 INT, and she has 31 levels left to get it to 150, so she would need to grow ~2.2 int per level to get to int 150 , but her int growth-rate is ~1.7 per level (considering i made the math right XD).

I would prefer to check her INT growth rate again in the next 5 levels, because since my int formula depends on the dex and luk, is not that accurate. I'm just worried that she might not get to 150 INT when reaching Lvl 150 .

Edited by novalkar, 24 March 2012 - 11:18 AM.

[big742003]

So, has anyone found out if evolving a loyal homunc below lvl 99 is any better or worse than waiting untill 99? I know it sure aides lvling.

[CheddarJack]

ive got a question too...would lvl a non S class homu into the 100 lvl range effect its stats much for once it gets to S class stat? or not at all?

Edited by CheddarJack, 24 March 2012 - 06:52 PM.

[Laurynthia]

ive got a question too...would lvl a non S class homu into the 100 lvl range effect its stats much for once it gets to S class stat? or not at all?

It would likely have less HP and SP than one changed at level 99.

[Joaco]

Amistr > Dieter

[novalkar]

I've been leveling a pre-balance Lif -> Eleanor on my Brewer Chemist :3, here is her growth chart, right now she is lvl 101

https://docs.google....emlPbFlxUU9LdEE

My Sera reached lvl 124 today, she has 90 int and 150 on all her other stats, but since her average int growth rate is arround 1.7 int per level, I expect her to end up with 134 int at lvl 150. Here is her growth chart

https://docs.google....hzY2l2ZGc#gid=1

i've also been updating my charts with other people homunculus so i can compare growths and stats.

[Hinkypunk]

Vanilmirth --> Eira


99 Vanilmirth

HP......11153
SP......845
Atk.....148
Matk...402
Hit......399
Crit.....51
Def.....423
Mdef...289
Flee....251
Aspd...183


99 Eira

HP......12932
SP......951
Atk.....149
Matk...409
Hit......399
Crit.....51
Def.....445
Mdef...301
Flee....256
Aspd...175


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Lif --> Bayeri


99 Lif

HP......9498
SP......1042
Atk.....121
Matk...392
Hit......384
Crit.....32
Def.....333
Mdef...267
Flee....215
Aspd...172


99 Bayeri

HP......10594
SP......1160
Atk.....126
Matk...407*
Hit......386
Crit.....35
Def.....350
Mdef...282*
Flee....217
Aspd...141

*Note: Matk and Mdef numbers are wrong due to INT exceeding 150 limit post-evolution. At level 100: Matk 401 / Mdef 278.

[guraboy]

Here is my baby bird

Filir (Unevolved)
lvl 90

HP - 5391
SP - 412

Atk - 93
Matk - 248
Hit - 342
Crit - 20
Def - 163
Mdef - 117
Flee - 210
Aspd - 172

And it just turned SHY... At this rate I wonder if it will hit 99 before I can even evolve it once D:

Oh, on that note, I'd to clarify the evolutionary procedure. Once the Filir hits level 99 then I should no longer let it gain any more experience until it hits Loyal as its evolved form correct? So do I just resort to afking it in town to feed/intimacy it?

[Gambri]

For Filirs it's not necessary to loyal it a second time unless you absolutely must have its loyalty skill. Simply being level 99 and evolved will let you mutate it into a Homunculus S. The reason you don't want to level it over 99 until it's mutated is because normal homunculi has a lower HP growth compared to homunculus s. You would effectively be limiting the potential amount of HP your homunculus could have by leveling it past 99 before mutating it.

Edited by Gambri, 02 April 2012 - 04:00 AM.

[Daize]

bottom pic is with his self buffs, bulwark + pyroclastic

For some reason he stopped gaining HP entirely after lvl 140. Is this the max amount of HP a homunculus can have? I noticed that it's the same exact number as the maximum melee damage that can be displayed through the client.

edit: here's with bloodlust just for lulz. poor fabre

Edited by Daize, 02 April 2012 - 02:45 PM.

[Laurynthia]

It may be a RO limitation - 32767 is 2^15 - 1 - the maximum value that can be stored in a signed short.

[Cubical]

nice notes on your dieter holy crap @ that atk and HP

[Hinkypunk]

Eira:




Unfortunately she was trolled pretty hard on 6 out of the 9 level-ups between 140 and 149.

[Realus]

Eira:




Unfortunately she was trolled pretty hard on 6 out of the 9 level-ups between 140 and 149.

Drat I wanted the first 150 Eira, that's what I get for using the 2x event to level my genetic instead of homunc.
Lol, oh well. My fault for taking so long (One and a half weeks?) break from leveling it.

That is a Vani with instruction change on right? (Judging from the ATK/MATK)

Hm, my 144 Eira has 19876 HP / 2161 SP (Changed at 112 Vani... lol, don't ask)
I wonder if it was better for me to have more HP or SP...
I regen 49 SP per tick, what does yours get back?

And aw man... I thought Eira would get +1 ASPD at 150 like Dieter, but I guess the mods for the homunc S make dieter different like that. (Since my 144 has 179 ASPD as well, ever since 140)

What did you mean by "trolled" "6 out of 9" levels? You gained bad HP/SP during those?

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Oh, and as a side note now that I look at it...

I guess Homunc don't all max out at 150.
Daize's Amistr->Dieter didn't max out all of his stats.

All of it should be maxed out, except for Luk on that Homunc. Stuck at 126~128 or so.

Of course anything that was Vani base should max out. Since they are 110+ Stats on everything by 99.
But I fear for Filir's vit (Mine was 15 unevolved at 99) or amistr's int (Friend had a Derpicorn with 64 int at 104. At least it's 112 Int now at 120. So it should grow fine)

Edited by Realus, 05 April 2012 - 10:15 PM.

[Hinkypunk]

That is a Vani with instruction change on right? (Judging from the ATK/MATK)

Hm, my 144 Eira has 19876 HP / 2161 SP (Changed at 112 Vani... lol, don't ask)
I wonder if it was better for me to have more HP or SP...
I regen 49 SP per tick, what does yours get back?

And aw man... I thought Eira would get +1 ASPD at 150 like Dieter, but I guess the mods for the homunc S make dieter different like that. (Since my 144 has 179 ASPD as well, ever since 140)

What did you mean by "trolled" "6 out of 9" levels? You gained bad HP/SP during those?

Yes, that's right after level-up so the ATK/MATK/MDEF reflect the Instruction Change bonus stats. I was also hoping it would follow the apparent trend of gaining +1 ASPD on levels that are a multiple of ten...but no dice!

SP regen is 53/tick.

As for what I mean by "trolled," considering her HP gains were generally 100 ±50 each level, and SP gains were generally 35 ±10, the final level-ups were consecutively abysmal with regards to HP:

141: +43 HP
142: +44 HP
143: +54 HP
144: +58 HP
145: +54 HP


Oh well!

[CheddarJack]

ok so i got a reset on my homu and here it is as a lvl 99 evolved vani again:



Here it is after turning into a sera:



lvl 100

Edited by CheddarJack, 17 April 2012 - 06:38 PM.

[lainee]

Eira: (Idris' sister lol)



The key to leveling the Eira's (that both Hinkypunk and I did together) was that you can't really just afk all the way to 150. While the Brasilis spotlight is still giving increased xp (not sure if that is intentional) you just need to grind it out there and get Overboost and Xeno Slasher and start mobbing the Piranas like mad. You can one-shot everything there with Xeno Slasher 5 and make full use of it's wind attribute. Then for those hours you are not there, work in tandem, AFK all night in OD2 and use Overboost to farm back intimacy.

Edited by lainee, 07 April 2012 - 02:27 AM.

[Realus]

Eira: (Idris' sister lol)

The key to leveling the Eira's (that both Hinkypunk and I did together) was that you can't really just afk all the way to 150. While the Brasilis spotlight is still giving increased xp (not sure if that is intentional) you just need to grind it out there and get Overboost and Xeno Slasher and start mobbing the Piranas like mad. You can one-shot everything there with Xeno Slasher 5 and make full use of it's wind attribute. Then for those hours you are not there, work in tandem, AFK all night in OD2 and use Overboost to farm back intimacy.

XD; Yours got the better end of the stick of HP than it's sister.

Yeah, I figure Brasilis would be good, I just have never bothered to go there myself.
Whenever I leveled in other locations, I would mob with Overed Boost and use Xeno Slasher 2, Chaotic Blessing, Xeno Slasher 2 and drop whatever mobs I was killing like that. (Such as back when people tried to move to goats.)
And yeah, I always AFK through the night (Unless I DC) and through my long classes. Intimacy means nothing to Eira users.

I still blame my leveling Genetic on being so slow to 150 though. 10 days of 2x Exp is quite a long time for my Eira to gain 0 exp.
Could have easily been 96+mil in that time... and I think 145 (current level) -> 150 would have taken only 45mil~ or so.
I don't mind though, Getting 112 -> 150 Genetic was more important then the HP/SP and Shine on my Eira. Since it no longer really gains much ATK/MATK/ASPD/Skills.... I didn't feel the need to level it so much.

Grats you two on your Eiras XD

[CheddarJack]

btw...do you guys think that my homu starting out at lvl 99 with 175 aspd could possibly reach 193 by the time it gets to 150?

[Laurynthia]

btw...do you guys think that my homu starting out at lvl 99 with 175 aspd could possibly reach 193 by the time it gets to 150?

No. As it is a Sera I would expect it to reach 179 aspd.

[Realus]

btw...do you guys think that my homu starting out at lvl 99 with 175 aspd could possibly reach 193 by the time it gets to 150?

You'd have a better shot with a level 150 perma-Filir or perma-Vanilmirth...
I think I got my Vani to 186 ASPD by level 112.
Since my Eira gained 1 more aspd at 120, and 140. I probably could have had 188 I guess.

But it's really not worth it at ALL staying the original homunc. (Except for originality, and the novelty of it all) As all homunc S have a reason to get them. (Still trying to find out Bayeri's reason for existence atm...)

But any of the homunc S? Nope, no chance.
Your stuck at 176~179 IIRC depending on the type. (Each has a specific aspd at 150)
Eira and Sera only go to 179, and they are the fastest of the 5.