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[Pres]

Strawberry hat.

I was thinking like gangster scarf... lol

[Glittercandy]

These are the hard scenarios to deal with, is the stat growth deficit sufficient to do the releveling? I know sub 99 it is almost definitely yes, post 140.. I don't know.

From tests Homuns cap stats at 150, post renewal homuns ALL hit 150 across the board before level 150. pre-renewal homuns don't unless you were a vani.

My Dieter was originally a vani. So does this mean my homunculus won't be too bad stat-wise at level 150, except for lower hp/sp than post-renewal ones?

I'd be more inclined to remake it, I think, if the ground targeted skills were fixed. I only had a few days to play with lava slide (manual use, not ai), and it was an amazing leveling tool.

Edited by Glittercandy, 14 February 2012 - 10:00 PM.

[NeoNilox]

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There certainly is randomness involved, but what I saw growth wise is post renewal my non-evolved lvl 62 lif had almost equal stats to pre-Renewal evolved 62 Lif. The evolution process added a large chunk on top of that. I think most would agree that Lif have the poorest non-Dex growth out of the Homunculus, which is why I used it for testing.

You tested her stats but... how about her HP/SP? AFAIK stats aren't the only affected by post patch, but HP/SP as well, I mean, Vanilmirths having 12k+ HP and 900+ SP pre-S is not a joke.

[Clogon]

@Mayhem:
This homuculus thing isn't an event. It is a fix to help those stuck with pre-renewal Homuculi get on par with those that were made post renewal. Why should someone who already has an evolved loyal homunc be stuck with having a crappy Homunc because kRO failed to buff already created ones? Why should they be forced to reloyal their Homuc?

If new players get to loyal their homunc too cool! I see nothing wrong with that.

Edited by Clogon, 14 February 2012 - 09:17 PM.

[blitzersion]

Not Thor again.. >_>

[Mayhem]

Clogon.

I agree with the people who have played from such a long time ago having thier homuns caught up. I mean really. That would be like me having stats from prerenewal on my character.

But Why just let everyone loyal their homun for free? Like I said, thats the point in any of the players working for anything if gravity is just going to give it away to them if they wait for it. Like ok so there are a ton of people that wait for exp events to lvl and not just afk in the game. Why cus they are spoiled now on the fast turn ins. Hell I made 150 in a week then was like O.O omg wth did I just do.

It just hurts the game to keep giving everything away.

Like ok we had someone request to get the golden dragon helm another way. What about all that time people spent on a bunch of characters trying to get thier golden. Should they just be told oh too bad, now we are just going ot give it away. Same concept

Edited by Mayhem, 14 February 2012 - 09:29 PM.

[Hrishi]

How does this fix the release exploit at all?

[Lambor]

Rather than instantly being able to store skills that'll last you a full WoE of Release spam...now it'll take...a minute?

Not fixed. Exploitable.

Edited by Lambor, 14 February 2012 - 09:36 PM.

[Dmentd]

...But Why just let everyone loyal their homun for free? Like I said, thats the point in any of the players working for anything if gravity is just going to give it away to them if they wait for it. Like ok so there are a ton of people that wait for exp events to lvl and not just afk in the game. Why cus they are spoiled now on the fast turn ins. Hell I made 150 in a week then was like O.O omg wth did I just do...

Just 'cause they're offering a free loyal doesn't mean you have to take it. I'm inclined to loyal my newer homun the hard way, but take the free loyal on my pre-renewal one.

[Ramen]

Oh, for anyone who's done it before, is the Rachel TI pretty good exp? Also, what would be the recommended skills to copy for a SC to be at least somewhat useful to the party?

[Jowgen]

Please for the love of Pete, add the Golden Dragon helms into the boxter intake as well. I'm sure I'm not the only one that received a massive amount of them from the packs. Doesn't help that they're costumes and account bound.

[Nine]

An npc name Custard Cream right after they have Baba Yaga drop Tiger Panty.

Edited by Nine, 14 February 2012 - 09:59 PM.

[XIII_Eraser]

Make lunar quest stay please!!!

[Wizard]

Rather than instantly being able to store skills that'll last you a full WoE of Release spam...now it'll take...a minute?

Not fixed. Exploitable.

The problem lies in reading the spellbook but not the release skill itself...

Release is meant to be spammable on strings and when u get low after cast delay- aspd...

If release gets a cooldown it will kill entirely the warlock class woe wise because main spells as chain lightning and comet can deal good damage because they can be used on strings... And that's how it works on kRO... So I doubt GM's would be that short minded to actually kill an entire class for something that has to do with reading the book but not when its released...

Man I'm not even at home and I had to read that release craps wanna nerf?

[Anchors]

I BWinged out of my TI party 8 minutes early on purpose to avoid the usual five-minutes-early closing of the login and character servers in the hopes of TIing and returning for the last moments before maint, and, of course, with 4 minutes left on my manual (which I REALLY hope are still there after maint), my character hangs and I'm forced to close the client and attempt a relog, which, naturally, fails to connect because the character server is already down.

If my character hangs while attempting to map change and I can't attempt a relog to try to kick him off, does the character stay logged in and the manual timer still decrease? Am I SOL on this? >.>

[Caprii]

will the GX job change quest be fixed?

[Helios0]

whats this release bug everyone keeps talking about?

[GryphonYoyo]

These are the hard scenarios to deal with, is the stat growth deficit sufficient to do the releveling? I know sub 99 it is almost definitely yes, post 140.. I don't know.

From tests Homuns cap stats at 150, post renewal homuns ALL hit 150 across the board before level 150. pre-renewal homuns don't unless you were a vani.

And example is a level 62 evolved Lif

Pre-renewal stats were
Str 57
Agi 66
Vit 57
Int 89
Dex 81
Luk 72

Making a new Lif and getting to 62 and evolving it was
Str 70
Agi 88
Vit 89
Int 124
Dex 87
Luk 77


That post renewal Lif changed to Eira at lvl 100, stats at lvl 137 are
Str 150
Agi 150
Vit 150
Int 150
Dex 150
Luk 144

There certainly is randomness involved, but what I saw growth wise is post renewal my non-evolved lvl 62 lif had almost equal stats to pre-Renewal evolved 62 Lif. The evolution process added a large chunk on top of that. I think most would agree that Lif have the poorest non-Dex growth out of the Homunculus, which is why I used it for testing.

come one heim, what kill counts are coming out?

Edited by GryphonYoyo, 14 February 2012 - 10:02 PM.

[cybernetic]

Heim, if what you're doing to fix the release exploit is to just put a cool-down on reading spell book, then it won't fix the exploit.

I'll post results after the patch regardless.

[RennaSaintsworth]

135-150 Thor Volcano 2
- Kasa
- Salamander

YOU AGAIN??!!

Edited by RennaSaintsworth, 14 February 2012 - 10:04 PM.

[cybernetic]

Rather than instantly being able to store skills that'll last you a full WoE of Release spam...now it'll take...a minute?

Not fixed. Exploitable.

That's not how it works.

[Susan]

Heimdallr :
We have tried to update events in the past and the community reaction was so negative that it is less problematic to remove, and then reimplement it properly.

ok so you are only removing it (and therefore taking an important feature away from paying costumers) because you want to avoid direct negative feedback.

sounds reasonable

[iiNote]

Thor TI, not bad.

[Wizard]

Heim, if what you're doing to fix the release exploit is to just put a cool-down on reading spell book, then it won't fix the exploit.

I'll post results after the patch regardless.

Perhaps it won't but to kill the reading spellbook / release by adding a cooldown on the latter is rather stupid for not say something else... Release is one of the main skills used for woe warlocks and as I said before, is meant to be that way as you can see in any RO branch.

[GryphonYoyo]

YOU AGAIN??!!

that's lame, there should always be kill counts for at least levels75+