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#126 aznversaiboi

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Posted 26 March 2012 - 11:47 AM

Lets talk about GX being buff and nerfing performers or sorcs hp and RKs hp being nerf for what reason?? Anyone interested??
No?? Going once??
Going twice??
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Ok then back to sura -_-



Lmfao, nerf performers' HP and SP mod? What bull -_- is that? Performers can get one shotted by almost any class. Even a ninja can one shot kill a performer class without any trouble. If anything, performers should be given a buff in their HP and SP mod. Their HP and SP mod is so low, its so embarassing to state. We performers need more HP and SP, period. At woe, i get one shotted by ninjas so fast. AN AB can kill performers with Adarmus if Sirens dont work!

Gxes gets EVEN MORE buffs? What type of bull crap is that. Smh. GXes got a great great buff. Honestly, their skills deserved to be a little bit nerfed. For instance, the rolling cutter, is a bit Overpowerred. Its to strong. Worse part is, they have strong skills, fast aspd, and they are just to strong to deal with.
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Posted 26 March 2012 - 11:53 AM

As always requests I make to kRO must include date of implementation of it on kROs servers (non-Sakray). I assume this is because the people I talk to only can go off of build dates rather than what the contents are. So me stating "the update where x Skill gets Y update" is meaningless. My life would be easier if I could talk game shop and get nods of understanding but that has never been the case I have to request builds.



So I take it trying to get updates is some kind of a bureaucratic nightmare? Also, since it sounds like bug fixes have gotten reported, have those bugs been fixed and have we gotten the fixes back, or are they trolling us and making us wait until we get to the correct "build date" to get the bug fixes?
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#128 Shiroi17

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Posted 26 March 2012 - 11:54 AM

Tanking well for a group is a bad thing??? i always thought it was good. As for PVM damage, i have a sura and maybe its due to my gear or perhaps lack of skill for the class but i can't play it well. I remember back in the day where you would say" Yeah ! im badass because i am a monk!" now i say" god ... just let me get through these levels nice and easy , that way i can at least do some MVP punching.


I never said it was a bad thing. I said they can tank every monster in the game with no gear at all, their only worry is dark blessing. They are the best at everything which is the main concern.
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Posted 26 March 2012 - 11:58 AM

isn't cast times something you are able to change? remove fixed cast time of sacrifice

just make CC use up all spheres upon cast and not per person, meaning no goh/fist can come directly after it

goh in a guild vs guild woe setting isnt bad at all.

Edited by Andini, 26 March 2012 - 12:03 PM.

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Posted 26 March 2012 - 12:07 PM

If anything they should buff suras.
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Posted 26 March 2012 - 12:09 PM

If anything they should buff suras.


You know the #1 troll title isn't something to be taken literally, right?
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#132 IronPlushy

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Posted 26 March 2012 - 12:10 PM

You know the #1 troll title isn't something to be taken literally, right?

Yeah, but like if a RG has all god items, and like, a sura is naked, then the sura will die, thats why they should be buffed.
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#133 Xellie

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Posted 26 March 2012 - 12:11 PM

Yeah, but like if a RG has all god items, and like, a sura is naked, then the sura will die, thats why they should be buffed.


Actually a mostly naked RG can kill a sura :o!!!
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Posted 26 March 2012 - 12:11 PM

Gates of Hell is too spammable. Dragon's Breath is too powerful and spammable.
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Posted 26 March 2012 - 12:12 PM

Actually a mostly naked RG can kill a sura :o!!!

See, even Xellie thinks we should buff suras.
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Posted 26 March 2012 - 12:14 PM

See, even Xellie thinks we should buff suras.


actually I'm an advocate of buffing thief classes.

Both of them
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Posted 26 March 2012 - 12:14 PM

Spammable??? Rolling Cutter on top of the list, it doesnt even need a string. -_-


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Posted 26 March 2012 - 12:16 PM

Dragon breath! RANGED!
Rolling cutter! MELEE!

Learn the difference, it might save your life.

oh right and RC requires a 2handed weapon DB can be done with a shield etc etc yadda yadda yadda RC can be reduced correctly DB can't ... blahdeblahblah
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Posted 26 March 2012 - 12:21 PM

Honestly i don't know why they enabled backslide in woe, in my opinion that was one of the most stupid ideas i ever seen, snap should get some sort of god damned delay or something, rangers need a downgrade of their arrow storm and performers NEED desesperately to get buffed, also i don't know why they lowered hp mods on sorcs, that wasnt necessary GX's hell they need to nerf rolling cuter, is way too powerful, and suras in my opinion are kind of fine, just that snap need some change.
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Posted 26 March 2012 - 12:24 PM

Dragon breath! RANGED!
Rolling cutter! MELEE!

Learn the difference, it might save your life.

oh right and RC requires a 2handed weapon DB can be done with a shield etc etc yadda yadda yadda RC can be reduced correctly DB can't ... blahdeblahblah


Skill delay of DB compare to RC blahhblahhblahhh -_-
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#141 Xellie

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Posted 26 March 2012 - 12:30 PM

Skill delay of DB compare to RC blahhblahhblahhh -_-


Countered by no shield and getting your ass kicked in melee range.

I've not died to RC ever... mostly because I SPEED POT AWAY
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Posted 26 March 2012 - 12:40 PM

Sorry to say, but i totally disagree with the immunity to stunning. NO class should be FORCED, to get two 120 stats for a immunity to stun. Its pointless. How will the equation be stated to immunity. Please make an equation to how it can be an immunity. Equations Aiinsha, Equations! Show how will two 120 stats with give you immunity!


100 - {[(VIT + LUK) / 240] * [skill chance mod. 50 for dazzler, 70 for hammerfall, 95 for hammerfall with +10 bradium stonehammer...]%}

So easy to calculate this. If 1 is not enough, make it two. Howling is two stats, why not others?

Also, if you don't want to get 120 in two stats, go buy Orc Hero card. It's a MVP card for a certain reason.

Another thing I disagree with is, the wanderers and maestros buffs stacking. If a wanderer gets harmonized placed on them, the wanderer wont be able to undo it, BECAUSE of the fact that the skills, stack.! It makes no logic sense. Think of the pros and cons of this. No one should be able to take advantage of the use of both Windmill and Swing anyways. Good aspd, and strong strength, makes you Overpowered as it is.


Song of Destruction removes all performing buffs. And there is Clearance too. Give more work to the bishops, haha. Any problem, add Harmonize in one of the laudas.

You are crazy. Are you saying +35% aspd and +50 atk is overpowered? A Blacksmith can get 30% aspd and 25% atk with a second class skill. 25% full attack for a smith is way more than 50 for any other class. Oh. And Striking, it gives 150 atk in average. On a class which is not even a buffer.

DSL does need a buff but seriously, an immunity to it? DSL is the performers only 3rd class status that can be used by performers. (Pretty Sad how we share that status with Sorcerer's Arullo.) Why should there be an immunity placed to it? If thats the case, give an immunity to the other 3rd class skills such as Diamond Dust, Curse Circled, and etc. Also, what does luck or agi have to do with DSL's immunity. Make an equation here. You think just because you type big paragraphs that your right, sad to say, Your Totally Wrong and makes no sense at that. (: If there is to be given an immunity to DSL, then give immunity stats for CC, Diamond Dust, Mandragola Howling, and etc.


This is clearly a bug. Unlike you, I was on the sakray testing. Base INT gives immunity to Deep Sleep Lullaby [not the status, but the performer skill. I was too lazy to make a sorcerer to test if it affects Arullo too]. I said "remove it, or change it to luk/agi". The status resistance to deep must be costly. 100 agi on a sorc or 100 luk on a sura can be too costly to them, unlike int, which almost everyone except GX and Ranger can 100 it.

The duration bug and the int immunity to the status exist, just go test. Nothing with over 100 INT will EVER sleep to you.

Also, normal sleep immunity is AGI, if you don't know either. So yes, Deep Sleep with AGI makes total sense.

Big posts are one thing, and they happen. But forcing your post big by using higher font size is stupid.

Performers are made to Support and Disable. Dont try to make Performers be Overppowered. I admit that Performers used to be Overpowered, but now its the other way around. To balance things, give back the normal DSL, the normal SR, and fix the immunity to stunning!


Wait, are you here just to argue with me? After all this complaints, you come and agree with the highest points of the writing. You know I am right, just are lying to yourself to say it's wrong. Topics on the sakray area said to buff the immunity status to either 130 or 140.
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Posted 26 March 2012 - 12:41 PM

Countered by no shield and getting your ass kicked in melee range.

I've not died to RC ever... mostly because I SPEED POT AWAY


Sorcerer + Guillotine Cross problem solved ^^.
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Posted 26 March 2012 - 12:45 PM

Sorcerer + Guillotine Cross problem solved ^^.


God I love backslide.

and flying kick.

Edited by Xellie, 26 March 2012 - 12:45 PM.

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Posted 26 March 2012 - 12:46 PM

Countered by no shield and getting your ass kicked in melee range.

I've not died to RC ever... mostly because I SPEED POT AWAY


You are way too pro xellie, your argument is invalid!
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Posted 26 March 2012 - 12:47 PM

God I love backslide.

and flying kick.


You should enjoy Diamond Dust too. I find most Shadow Chasers love to Flying Kick into me right as it goes off ^^.
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#147 Xellie

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Posted 26 March 2012 - 12:49 PM

You should enjoy Diamond Dust too. I find most Shadow Chasers love to Flying Kick into me right as it goes off ^^.


Funny enough, it's my repo'd skill. But what do I care? I have gtb ^^
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Posted 26 March 2012 - 12:51 PM

Funny enough, it's my repo'd skill. But what do I care? I have gtb ^^


Well then why not be courteous and let ROPD have a picture of it ^^.
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Posted 26 March 2012 - 12:54 PM

go look at my youtube channel instead if you wanna see it.

Also :
http://ropd.info/?account=1388511 - look at viking kitten
http://ropd.info/?account=1078827 - look at Xellophin
http://ropd.info/?account=159522 - look at Xerrie.

Edited by Xellie, 26 March 2012 - 01:02 PM.

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Posted 26 March 2012 - 12:55 PM

yep, there really is no reason why a chaser should ever die to rc. it has the means via its skills to gtfo, reflect damage back, or disable the gx completely
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