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#51 Berek

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Posted 19 October 2010 - 04:57 PM

Ok if they make the Stone thing item for buying in playspan (like they said in the first post) and its worth 100 ultimate points sounds good for me.

At least they gave us another option!! I just hope my WP account wasnt suspended u_u and I dont ever know why D:
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#52 Heimdallr

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Posted 19 October 2010 - 05:01 PM

Here is the amount of Reset Stones needed to do the Full stat reset (when the free one leaves on November 5th)

Base Level

Consumable Item (Quantity)

1 ~ 40 Reset Stone (x1)
41 ~ 60 Reset Stone (x2)
61 ~ 80 Reset Stone (x3)
81 - 90 Reset Stone (x4)
91 ~ 100 Reset Stone (x5)
101 ~ 110 Reset Stone (x6)
111 ~ 120 Reset Stone (x7)
121 ~ 130 Reset Stone (x8)
131 ~ 140 Reset Stone (x9)
141 ~ 150 Reset Stone (x10)


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#53 Miii

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Posted 19 October 2010 - 05:03 PM

So I need to buy 5 reset stones (500 kp) for a full reset? @__@ I don't get it.
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#54 devinz999

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Posted 19 October 2010 - 05:06 PM

Hey Heim reply me , what u gonna do if there will be more bots on renewal cause of that stupid reason?? will you unlock that 3rd job on valk or what ??? :P
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#55 Pingchan

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Posted 19 October 2010 - 05:08 PM

^They'll just ignore it as usual.
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#56 GuardianTK

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Posted 19 October 2010 - 05:08 PM

Here is the amount of Reset Stones needed to do the Full stat reset (when the free one leaves on November 5th)

Base Level

Consumable Item (Quantity)

1 ~ 40 Reset Stone (x1)
41 ~ 60 Reset Stone (x2)
61 ~ 80 Reset Stone (x3)
81 - 90 Reset Stone (x4)
91 ~ 100 Reset Stone (x5)
101 ~ 110 Reset Stone (x6)
111 ~ 120 Reset Stone (x7)
121 ~ 130 Reset Stone (x8)
131 ~ 140 Reset Stone (x9)
141 ~ 150 Reset Stone (x10)


To make sense out of this post for other users:
The previous stat reset system was where you had to spend an amount equal to 1k KP to reset only 20 stat pts.

The new system means you have to purchase 10 Reset Stones(2k KP) at level 150 in order to get all of your stat pts reset. If you're level 100, it's the equivalent of the previous stat reset price, only you get the added advantage of resetting all the more stat pts(Meaning all of your pts instead of the measly 20pts for 1k KP previously required.).
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#57 Zoltor

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Posted 19 October 2010 - 05:10 PM

So I need to buy 5 reset stones (500 kp) for a full reset? @__@ I don't get it.



It's simple, It's based on lv, not a straight up single price, so this is a very good thing, and I can't think of a better, more fair way to impliment a reset mechanic.

Edited by Zoltor, 19 October 2010 - 05:13 PM.

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#58 Wanderer

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Posted 19 October 2010 - 05:14 PM

Here is the amount of Reset Stones needed to do the Full stat reset (when the free one leaves on November 5th)

Base Level

Consumable Item (Quantity)

1 ~ 40 Reset Stone (x1)
41 ~ 60 Reset Stone (x2)
61 ~ 80 Reset Stone (x3)
81 - 90 Reset Stone (x4)
91 ~ 100 Reset Stone (x5)
101 ~ 110 Reset Stone (x6)
111 ~ 120 Reset Stone (x7)
121 ~ 130 Reset Stone (x8)
131 ~ 140 Reset Stone (x9)
141 ~ 150 Reset Stone (x10)


Consider making the stones tradeable please...
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#59 AmonRA

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Posted 19 October 2010 - 05:15 PM

Here is the amount of Reset Stones needed to do the Full stat reset (when the free one leaves on November 5th)

Base Level

Consumable Item (Quantity)

1 ~ 40 Reset Stone (x1)
41 ~ 60 Reset Stone (x2)
61 ~ 80 Reset Stone (x3)
81 - 90 Reset Stone (x4)
91 ~ 100 Reset Stone (x5)
101 ~ 110 Reset Stone (x6)
111 ~ 120 Reset Stone (x7)
121 ~ 130 Reset Stone (x8)
131 ~ 140 Reset Stone (x9)
141 ~ 150 Reset Stone (x10)


Holy crap!
OMG Heim, this is so, I do not imagine the amount to be paid to reset 7 or more characters.
It's time to retire from RO X____X
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#60 Pingchan

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Posted 19 October 2010 - 05:18 PM

Consider making the stones tradeable please...


^THIS. A thousand times this.
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Posted 19 October 2010 - 05:18 PM

Pay to Win i agree with this, but some people cannot get access to credit cards to buy points. i like the idea they gave us 200 points for warpportal account and if i had known earlier that 3rd class would cost points i would of saved them but i think its unfare for a race event that you need kp to start it, it would be farer to allow players to choose a reset or a free 3rd class change if u must be mean about it. personally i dont need a reset and alot of people will just use it to change a build to one which would of been harder to level

As for Battle Grounds and KVM, lose the stupid delays
kvm is DEAD because waiting 5 mins to get 1kvm point just makes u QQ
BG would be better without the waiting delay, id like to see a MVP type style of pvp. rewarding killers with more points then leechers also more of a pvp based game allowing people who are dced to comeback and new players to take spots of old player during th running of the game or course this would required alot of tweaking with the reward system

1 last thing, id like to see battleground weapons be breakable, battleground has basicly killed the shattering strike skill of a mastersmith or even edit it to allow helm/sheild breaks sinces its the only usful skill as a mech
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#62 Zoltor

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Posted 19 October 2010 - 05:19 PM

Consider making the stones tradeable please...



Tradeable as in, betwenn the char on the same account sure why not, tradeable as in vendable/trade window, hell no, I hope not(that would cause so many problems, It's not funny, It's bad enough E'Elu/E'Ori can).

Edited by Zoltor, 19 October 2010 - 05:19 PM.

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#63 Miii

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Posted 19 October 2010 - 05:20 PM

I though 1 stone = full reset :P having to buy 5 is meh...

Edited by Miii, 19 October 2010 - 05:21 PM.

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#64 Wanderer

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Posted 19 October 2010 - 05:22 PM

Tradeable as in, betwenn the char on the same account sure why not, tradeable as in vendable/trade window, hell no, I hope not(that would cause so many problems, It's not funny, It's bad enough E'Elu/E'Ori can).


Not vendable, just tradeable to other players. Some people will buy it for a friend who can't or sell it to them. For Gravity it's the same bloody money and who cares if he pays for his friends.
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#65 Pravin

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Posted 19 October 2010 - 05:24 PM

I think for minimizing bot problems we should have had Ygg server as a one time pay $10 to get in type of server. If a bot got banned he would have to pay 10$ to get in again, instead of making Ygg a full p2p server. As for valk, the payment for getting to 3rd jobs might stop a few botters from getting to 3rd job, but will it stop the hordes of bots in most other maps ? The gon_dun maps for royal jellies had 5 bpsi ( bots per square inch ) when i last visited them.
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#66 KuroNeko

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Posted 19 October 2010 - 05:25 PM

so the whole stone implement for stat reset will not take place till after the actual free reset npc is gone, yes?

and how exactly will the free npc work will it be multiple times or like the system you guys came up with for ymir D:
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#67 Zoltor

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Posted 19 October 2010 - 05:26 PM

Not vendable, just tradeable to other players. Some people will buy it for a friend who can't or sell it to them. For Gravity it's the same bloody money and who cares if he pays for his friends.



The problem with that is, you can send zenny though the trader. A better option, would be for Gravity to make a gift option.
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Posted 19 October 2010 - 05:28 PM

You just will make it worse ,our expectations on valk just will fail cause u keep bots up /shy http://forums.warppo...tyle_emoticons/default/icon_bow.gif
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#69 An1ma

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Posted 19 October 2010 - 05:30 PM

I though 1 stone = full reset :P having to buy 5 is meh...


After renewal is implemented on valk, it will follow the bottom rule until Nov.5th
After Nov.5th, you will have to use the reset stones if u want to full stat reset a char.

Resetters, will have the following price adjustment.

1st = 0
2nd = 50,000
3rd = 200,000
4th 450,000
5th = 800,000
6th = 1,250,000
at 50,000 x (resetsdone)^2


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Posted 19 October 2010 - 05:31 PM

honestly, bots have been in ro 4ever, without making everything account bound like Runescape did bots will alwats plague ro, the only solution to bot is an in game game master who checks players and bans bots

a real ingame gm presence would put to rest alot of problems

but this is about renewal and im looking forward to a new unbalanced version of ro

btw still waiting to get 4 of my accounts back >>

ONE LAST THING UMMM RECALL NEVER STOPED WORKING <<

Edited by IronFist, 19 October 2010 - 05:35 PM.

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#71 Pravin

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Posted 19 October 2010 - 05:38 PM

But having a one time payment to start a char will minimize the bot problem by a lot, which is what I was trying to emphasize. There isnt much of a bot problem on Ymir I suppose, mainly cos playing there takes money. We could atleast have a variation of one time payment thing which might help in minimising the bots, if the GMs dont care about banning the bots and cleaning up the maps themselves.
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Posted 19 October 2010 - 05:42 PM

Don't really care about the tweaked cast times since I think the ability to instant cast over powers some players but a kafra hat that reduces the fixed portion of the cast time so it's near instant would be cool. I am however really looking forward to the improved aspd formulas.

I don't understand why the price for the reset stone was dropped from 200kp to 100kp as it's almost the same price. If there's one thing I learned from spending a -_-load of cash on getting the letters MBA next to my name. It's that for things like these, it's not the price that's the issue but rather the principle behind it. I'm almost certain that dropping the price from $2 to $1 doesn't change the number of people that will buy. From a pricing perspective, the nominal price for a reset stone before anyone would start complaining about the price of things and not act based on principle would be 500kp or the equivalent of $5 since that's also the lowest amount you can purchase. I mean so far, I haven't seen anyone praise Gravity for dropping the price but at this point its too late to raise the price but it's something to consider.

While what I just suggested goes against the best interest of my fellow Valk players and I, it does help you folks at Gravity and ultimately, if you guys can't make money I'm out of a game to play O__O and I NEEEEEEED this game to bash away at the porings after working an airline all morning.
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Posted 19 October 2010 - 05:44 PM

Holy crap!
OMG Heim, this is so, I do not imagine the amount to be paid to reset 7 or more characters.
It's time to retire from RO X____X

Unless I understand it wrong, you are given time to use the Zeny reset before that system is implemented. On Valkyrie. Unless for some reason you want to reset all 7 of your characters after November 5, then um, yeah, good luck.

Edited by Miyuki, 19 October 2010 - 05:45 PM.

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Posted 19 October 2010 - 05:50 PM

I'm curious, how did kRO handle their resets?
Me personally, I have only reset one chara, my forger to make him a pure forger. :P My builds seem to work on my charas. I guess the best thing you can do is just get your builds figured out before Nov. 5th.
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Posted 19 October 2010 - 05:51 PM

Or unless the person can't get on their account for some reason (unpaid, unavailable, etc.) and can't use the free reseter right now :X
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