October 21, Expectations, take 2.
#76
Posted 19 October 2010 - 05:53 PM
#77
Posted 19 October 2010 - 05:56 PM
Gravity also need to realize that the creation of the Valkyrie server drew numerous players that has never set foot on an official RO server before. Money is not the issue at hand; you guys are charging the players for something that most of us perceive as a free update. Unlike Lucky Boxes and of the usage of stones to stat reset (after Nov. 5), players can experience endgame content without needing these things. You can milk the Lucky Boxes as much as you want, but charging players for something that should be free in the first place (being able to access endgame content) is insulting in principle. At the end of the day, if this carries through, Gravity will lose the many players that it drew in when Valkyrie was first created.
tl;dr: I can pay for stones but not everyone else can, not because of monetary reasons but for reasons of principle. It can lead to a decrease in population and the quality of future WoEs.
#78
Posted 19 October 2010 - 06:00 PM
#79
Posted 19 October 2010 - 06:10 PM
#80
Posted 19 October 2010 - 06:15 PM
Yup.So wait if i reset my skills and stats before Nov 5th then i dont have to buy the stones?
#81
Posted 19 October 2010 - 06:17 PM
According to them, yes. That is if you're not a 99 on Valkyrie planning to 3rd.So wait if i reset my skills and stats before Nov 5th then i dont have to buy the stones?
#82
Posted 19 October 2010 - 06:21 PM
Playspan gives 100pts for signing up.
May I ask how to transfer those pts into kps?
#83
Posted 19 October 2010 - 06:22 PM
#84
Posted 19 October 2010 - 06:43 PM
If they do that quickly, the system could actually work.
#85
Posted 19 October 2010 - 07:13 PM
#86
Posted 19 October 2010 - 07:29 PM
#87
Posted 19 October 2010 - 07:31 PM
btw dnt the botters sell zeny for real money >>
#88
Posted 19 October 2010 - 07:41 PM
How about that full call to old players you promised?
The emails are underway, and have been for past 3 days. There are millions of email addresses so it takes some time.
The Playspan marketplace will begin offering the Reset Stone, for 100 points there and you can use the code to redeem yourself or for a friend.
We can't make the ones we sell tradable due to chargeback issues that will occur. But if you ask, we will make accomodations for its trading for individual cases. We just can't take the risk of a chargeback person allowing hundreds of bots to 3rd class, or selling to players and then cause us problems.
#89
Posted 19 October 2010 - 07:43 PM
#90
Posted 19 October 2010 - 07:43 PM
The reset stones I think are a bit much for those who missed the temp free ones. You ARE trying to bring old players back, right? I really think all currently existing characters that haven't job changed to 3rd should be granted a single, free, full reset, with this opportunity lost if they take a 3rd job before they use it. Not doing this is putting up a *large* barrier ($45/account) to the returning players you're supposedly trying to attract. The stat system has been so fundamentally altered that almost every old build has to be discarded.
Edited by Mwrip, 19 October 2010 - 07:43 PM.
#91
Posted 19 October 2010 - 07:57 PM
Thats how "INTERNATIONAL" made the difference!
#92
Posted 19 October 2010 - 08:00 PM
#93
Posted 19 October 2010 - 08:01 PM
The emails are underway, and have been for past 3 days. There are millions of email addresses so it takes some time.
The Playspan marketplace will begin offering the Reset Stone, for 100 points there and you can use the code to redeem yourself or for a friend.
We can't make the ones we sell tradable due to chargeback issues that will occur. But if you ask, we will make accomodations for its trading for individual cases. We just can't take the risk of a chargeback person allowing hundreds of bots to 3rd class, or selling to players and then cause us problems.
im a returning player, i cant log in, ive been waiting 2 days with no reply to my tickets, please please reply to ticket 2E8-145128AF-4AE4
when alot of old players quit there was no warp portal, and no warning that i saw of the password resets, i think if we had known alot of the old players would of logged in and fixed up their accounts - even if we decide not to play anymore it sucks to lose our characters forever.
#94
Posted 19 October 2010 - 08:11 PM
The emails are underway, and have been for past 3 days. There are millions of email addresses so it takes some time.
Thanks for the replay bb.
#95
Posted 19 October 2010 - 08:12 PM
The emails are underway, and have been for past 3 days. There are millions of email addresses so it takes some time.
The Playspan marketplace will begin offering the Reset Stone, for 100 points there and you can use the code to redeem yourself or for a friend.
We can't make the ones we sell tradable due to chargeback issues that will occur. But if you ask, we will make accomodations for its trading for individual cases. We just can't take the risk of a chargeback person allowing hundreds of bots to 3rd class, or selling to players and then cause us problems.
Awesome, I just hope you guys get the item ready for the maint.
#96
Posted 19 October 2010 - 08:33 PM
Edited by Cryslia, 19 October 2010 - 08:42 PM.
#97
Posted 19 October 2010 - 08:51 PM
The game is F2P and massive amounts of contents are available for Free, but a 1 time purchase to get access keeps bots lower, and gives us the revenue to keep things improving.
Why couldn't you have just said this in the first place? Myself as well as many others I'm sure, have no problem with this change if it would give you revenue to improve the game we play.
Instead the first thread had to turn into the flame war that it did.
#98
Posted 19 October 2010 - 08:56 PM
Well, no one but the game itself. This is just as bad as forcing people to pay X bucks to be able to do the quest for their second classes, for example - many of the endgame quests and monsters are not available to you if you don't go 3rd class, and you obviously would be outperformed in WoE, among other things. I don't think botters are going to be too damaged, either.I can't believe so many people are complaining about requiring payment for access to the next tier of a free game. No one is forcing you change to a third class. If you feel that you need the third class in order to play the game, even though the update gives you access to ALL of the update, save for the new classes. Especially when a major revision to a normal game requires an investment of around $40 or else you get close to NOTHING from the update.
#99
Posted 19 October 2010 - 09:01 PM
#100
Posted 19 October 2010 - 09:03 PM
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