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#26 Wtfast

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Posted 04 June 2013 - 07:26 PM

How do you explain Tux and Wed dress stats being remove when people spent cash to buy costume boxes from you guys now you just take that away?
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Posted 04 June 2013 - 07:27 PM

So what about the costumes?
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Posted 04 June 2013 - 07:28 PM

The problem is that they spent an ENTIRE month hyping this title. You guys had an entire month worth of time to announce and make plans and changes. Instead, you guys pulled an all nighters and did it at the last minute.
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#29 LeonFlare

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Posted 04 June 2013 - 07:28 PM

Njoror u know, you can tell HQ to prevent this, you still are in time to not implement those changes, you can stop the ongoing bad reputation on the game and prevent actual costumers leave the game, just saying
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Posted 04 June 2013 - 07:28 PM

Where did we state the stats for the item? I certainly never approved their release, I have a feeling that players are telling other players about something that is not true and that rumor is becoming what you think is the truth.
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Posted 04 June 2013 - 07:28 PM

Who is going to want the crap Founder title now with +5 (+ 1 greater than prehistoric, and not any better than any 30+ title )- that's so offensive !
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Posted 04 June 2013 - 07:29 PM

We understand the community’s concern. The intent was never to mislead you.

Yeah, and you guys flaunted the title and relevant events since game launch (without saying a word about this) and encouraged us to go out of our way for it.

Simply put, we ain't falling for it. Good day.
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Posted 04 June 2013 - 07:29 PM

Lol so some1 hit the "Send out titles" button on accident
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Posted 04 June 2013 - 07:29 PM

Please understand that we never stated the stats of the title, because it wasn't intended to be Amazing stats, it was always intended to be about +5 to all stats, and that is what it is being changed to. The fact that it is +30 to all stats is way too powerful to be considered intended or admissable in-game. If you look to the future how would anyone who starts playing ever compete with players with the founder titles with their solid edge on them, and it would invalidate ever using any khara title as well.Truly I am sorry that you interpret us setting it back to its intended value within 24 hours of putting it in, we wanted to get the titles out to you when we said we would rather than waiting until after maintenance. Consider today "bonus" stats for being patient with us.


I want to point out the fact that you knew that founder titles were in the game displaying as +30. Why not clarify that instead of edging people on to get a title that you KNEW was bugged? That's bait and switch.
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Posted 04 June 2013 - 07:29 PM

blah blah blah blah blah blahblah blah blah blah blah blah that had been planned blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah

We wanted blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah

blah blah blah blah blah blah The intent was never to mislead you. blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah
blah blah blah blah blah blah


sounds like this was well known and deliberately withheld.

there was plenty of time to pop in the forums and be like
"hey just so you know the stats displayed in game are not the ones we are planning on giving you. so just keep your lvl 15 titles and save your time"

as far as int goes the title for dying is way better and more fitting
WEAK.

Edited by Lucy Ashely, 04 June 2013 - 07:41 PM.

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#36 Squachie

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Posted 04 June 2013 - 07:29 PM

Even if it wasn't your intention to mislead or trick people, the fact is, it has. The fact is, a large part of the community is angry.

In the long run, sure, it will help balance the game for the overall good of the community and playerbase, but what's the point if there isn't a community left?
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Posted 04 June 2013 - 07:30 PM

The stats were stated +30 for Founder on Facebook, promoted heavily, and is +30 in-game! Don't nerf something people have been looking forward to since the game launched!
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Posted 04 June 2013 - 07:31 PM

Please understand that we never stated the stats of the title, because it wasn't intended to be Amazing stats, it was always intended to be about +5 to all stats, and that is what it is being changed to. The fact that it is +30 to all stats is way too powerful to be considered intended or admissable in-game. If you look to the future how would anyone who starts playing ever compete with players with the founder titles with their solid edge on them, and it would invalidate ever using any khara title as well.Truly I am sorry that you interpret us setting it back to its intended value within 24 hours of putting it in, we wanted to get the titles out to you when we said we would rather than waiting until after maintenance. Consider today "bonus" stats for being patient with us.


1 day 6 mor stat than goblin leader dont compensate the 60 hours you made us play/afk an average lvl 30 tittle gives more stats than that bull-_- you are -_- us up +5 to all stats? you mean master crafter?
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Posted 04 June 2013 - 07:31 PM

It was always intended to be +5 stats all around? (but it's not, Int is removed derp). Then why didn't you bother to correct anyone when you saw them post the stats that were found in-game? This statement seems like you're back peddling/trying to play nice bc lawsuits/fraud/false advertising were being mentioned.
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#40 RoronoaLance

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Posted 04 June 2013 - 07:31 PM

hey stop the hate, they didnt intent to mislead you to online for 60 hours for 6 level 21 title.... wait, THEY DID
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#41 Shilenne

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Posted 04 June 2013 - 07:32 PM

Where did we state the stats for the item? I certainly never approved their release, I have a feeling that players are telling other players about something that is not true and that rumor is becoming what you think is the truth.


Players weren't telling players. Go into the title list on a character that doesn't have founder. Scroll over the title and see for yourself what stats they displayed. Just because you didn't "SAY" it, but the fact that you knew it was displaying falsely in game (It was pretty much admitted that "the stats were not the ones that was displayed") and that you didn't clarify it already suggest one of two things, either you intentionally kept mum to have an excuse when accused, or that you intended ever since the start to mislead.
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Posted 04 June 2013 - 07:32 PM

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Posted 04 June 2013 - 07:34 PM

Where did we state the stats for the item? I certainly never approved their release, I have a feeling that players are telling other players about something that is not true and that rumor is becoming what you think is the truth.


That was the problem. you DIDN'T state the stats. However anyone can look at the khara page and see the stats for Founder. People knew about the Founder title's stats from the very beginning. That is what they expected. An image of the title's stats was even posted in the very first thread you guys made about the title and you made no effort to correct or change it.

Please understand that we never stated the stats of the title, because it wasn't intended to be Amazing stats, it was always intended to be about +5 to all stats, and that is what it is being changed to. The fact that it is +30 to all stats is way too powerful to be considered intended or admissable in-game. If you look to the future how would anyone who starts playing ever compete with players with the founder titles with their solid edge on them, and it would invalidate ever using any khara title as well.Truly I am sorry that you interpret us setting it back to its intended value within 24 hours of putting it in, we wanted to get the titles out to you when we said we would rather than waiting until after maintenance. Consider today "bonus" stats for being patient with us.


Except that as your character gets closer to 50, the stat bonuses from the title become less and less of an advantage. The stats are only marginally better than the most easily obtained Level 50 titles.

You should have set the Founder title to be level 50 only, not give us a POINTLESS title that NOBODY will use, yet they wasted their time and money to get because you DECEIVED us over the stats.

Edited by Bufkus, 04 June 2013 - 07:36 PM.

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Posted 04 June 2013 - 07:34 PM

Looks like Ragnarok is really happening (to this game).
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Posted 04 June 2013 - 07:36 PM

Dear Heimdallr..

Khara window...Title tab.
It has been there the entire time.

Seriously?
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Posted 04 June 2013 - 07:36 PM

Sorry, but I'm not forgiving you guys for this one.
I'm not spending another cent of my money on this game.

Edited by Retni, 04 June 2013 - 07:37 PM.

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Posted 04 June 2013 - 07:38 PM

It is in Khara Title. Please do check. How can you call it as planned to nerf it? Wow.
Nerf there, nerf here. Everywhere nerf. Now NA version slowly become SEA version. Good job. :thumb2:
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#48 JohnKeel

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Posted 04 June 2013 - 07:39 PM

Where did we state the stats for the item? I certainly never approved their release, I have a feeling that players are telling other players about something that is not true and that rumor is becoming what you think is the truth.


Funny. You can't seriously expect us to believe this wasn't obvious intentional misleading information. Nobody would care about the founder title, and would not be giving your game hours played on many different sites, Period if it hadn't been for WarpPortal intentional misleading information about this title.

Besides, the nerfing of items after they have been bought and sold with both real and ingame money is absolutely incompetent for the game economy.

Lost a lot of respect for WP through this.



If you're unhappy with these changes, I recommend you unlike their Facebook page. WarpPortal has tried really hard to pimp their page out, and I think it's unfair that THEY can get what they want.. But we can't even get what we were promised, what we PAID for, and we're not even allowed to hold onto the things we already have.

Show WarpPortal we're not just going to say okay and roll over! Dislike the page and watch the numbers drop.

Edited by JohnKeel, 04 June 2013 - 07:46 PM.

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Posted 04 June 2013 - 07:39 PM

Sigh.. at least next time I know better than to spend hundreds of dollars on getting Stat costumes as well as spend hours upon hours of gameplay to obtain the title and then just have it all taken away.
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Posted 04 June 2013 - 07:39 PM

Should have just kept the stats and made it level 50 requirement.

Even though it's unique you guys made it 100% useless for level 50 players. Much like the pre-historic title it's going to sit and rot.
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