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#51 Filipito98

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Posted 14 July 2014 - 10:34 PM

Pure luck when I got my Beautiful Ring & Earring after killing 3 Moon sisters when the x2 drop event happened (Mother Day).

@Leonis: Does Abyss Rifle still drop sir? :p_sleep:
 
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Posted 15 July 2014 - 02:31 AM

I would like some info about the places where i could farm twill. The compendium is not accurate anymore + there are only 3 spots. One of them is Eldeon, but those mobs hit like trucks now and have tons of stuns/sleep and debuff.

Anyone know some good twill farming spots?

Also... put back the normal white items ingame! I could get some twill by disassembling white items (according the compendium).

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Posted 15 July 2014 - 03:22 AM

quickest way to get twill from memory is by disassembling dimple vests


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Posted 15 July 2014 - 04:51 AM

You mean the normal dimple vests? I cant recall dropping any normal white gear at all so far..

Can i buy these vests at an npc? Can i farm them sonewhere?
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Posted 15 July 2014 - 05:03 AM

yep the storage npc in xita :)

and they do drop but with the new table im not sure where yet maybe pincers? or hooks its usually easier to just buy and disassemble the armour from npc


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Posted 15 July 2014 - 08:53 AM

Pure luck when I got my Beautiful Ring & Earring after killing 3 Moon sisters when the x2 drop event happened (Mother Day).

@Leonis: Does Abyss Rifle still drop sir? :p_sleep:

Yes, the (82) Abyss Rifle is available to hunt for.
 

I would like some info about the places where i could farm twill. The compendium is not accurate anymore + there are only 3 spots. One of them is Eldeon, but those mobs hit like trucks now and have tons of stuns/sleep and debuff.

Anyone know some good twill farming spots?

Also... put back the normal white items ingame! I could get some twill by disassembling white items (according the compendium).

Twill drops from a fairly large range of monsters and it sounds like you've found where many are already. You can also try working within the community's market economy to see if anyone has some to sell if you're desperate enough to need it, or perhaps rally some clan mates and friends to help you farm for it to make it easier. Remember, ROSE is an MMO, and I'm sure there are players out there who would be willing to join you on the adventure to farm for it. :)
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Posted 15 July 2014 - 08:59 AM

Leonis, I don't understand jewelry anymore - I'm getting balanced parts from a king who used to drop another set ;o

is it possible i can get a list of what king drops what parts? :>


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Posted 15 July 2014 - 09:16 AM

Leonis, I don't understand jewelry anymore - I'm getting balanced parts from a king who used to drop another set ;o

is it possible i can get a list of what king drops what parts? :>

 

Please read the original post in the thread. :)

 

The drop system was for lack of a better word, overhauled, not all drops are going to remain how they once were, though many may have remain intact with the guidelines previously set and attempted to be followed, the new drop system is by far more to our intended designs.
 

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Also, I've updated a bit to the guide, so you can know how the icons for monsters are associated to their class call.
 

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Posted 15 July 2014 - 01:54 PM

Leo will any of the "Stared" mobs drop epic & legendary or just the upper 2 tiers of bosses?
 
Edit - nevermind I just saw that you added that to the update in the guide thank you :D


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Posted 15 July 2014 - 05:25 PM

Leo will any of the "Stared" mobs drop epic & legendary or just the upper 2 tiers of bosses?
 
Edit - nevermind I just saw that you added that to the update in the guide thank you :D

:D (I edited out my quote, it was rather painful to read when it didn't really need to be there for your question) ;)


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Posted 15 July 2014 - 06:14 PM

Yes it drops!  :D :

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  • Coyote Wand
  • Shining Finger

All 4 of those DO drop according to Leo.

the question is where ? and what moster drops them ? is it just king ? and if it is what king, we need a drop table list on each monster and its drops .. this items listed as requested items, does this mean is not consider as an epic ? Leo, if you want to change something in the game is fine, but please make a clear guide to it , so we know what we are doing thank you 


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Posted 15 July 2014 - 06:41 PM

the question is where ? and what moster drops them ? is it just king ? and if it is what king, we need a drop table list on each monster and its drops .. this items listed as requested items, does this mean is not consider as an epic ? Leo, if you want to change something in the game is fine, but please make a clear guide to it , so we know what we are doing thank you 

 

Leo amended his 1st post (I pretty much was asking the same thing) to include this information all that is left for us players to do is work out what lvl the bosses are which should already be in the wiki since this has not been changed (that I know of??)


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Posted 16 July 2014 - 05:03 AM

I would like some info about the places where i could farm twill. The compendium is not accurate anymore + there are only 3 spots. One of them is Eldeon, but those mobs hit like trucks now and have tons of stuns/sleep and debuff.

Anyone know some good twill farming spots?

Also... put back the normal white items ingame! I could get some twill by disassembling white items (according the compendium).

 

Djerba, Mammy type mobs drop twill in OT.


Edited by pdfisher, 16 July 2014 - 05:03 AM.

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Posted 16 July 2014 - 08:35 AM

Leo amended his 1st post (I pretty much was asking the same thing) to include this information all that is left for us players to do is work out what lvl the bosses are which should already be in the wiki since this has not been changed (that I know of??)

Monster levels have not changed, correct. :)


 


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Posted 16 July 2014 - 08:44 AM

under what tier do king medals fall?

medallions??


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Posted 16 July 2014 - 09:00 AM

medallions??


under what tier do king medals fall?

Legendary rates, but does not drop through the new drop system.

Please make sure you read through the thread. I do my best to answer everything that is unanswered.
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Posted 16 July 2014 - 09:39 AM

wow, just killed like 10/20 mobs n my inventory is full of random mats :p_swt: , most of them are just for sell (the ones who is selled in npc i also sell them :I) but cant be used for craft (like alcohol, coal, oil, etc....) is kinda annoying having that items :(, last times it was like just need to get mats n sell them after finish the work (quests, farm, etc) now is like, in half of the work is need for sell the items for have some space :I


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Posted 16 July 2014 - 12:35 PM

Is there more chance to get an epic from king type rather than leader type?


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Posted 17 July 2014 - 06:31 AM

Please make sure you read through the thread. I do my best to answer everything that is unanswered.

ooh thanks and sorry XD


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Posted 17 July 2014 - 10:16 AM

Is there more chance to get an epic from king type rather than leader type?

Yes, Kings give a higher base chance of dropping an Epic tier item, than a those classes below them, such as a Leader or Captain, even a SubBoss.


 


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Posted 17 July 2014 - 11:24 AM

Yes, Kings give a higher base chance of dropping an Epic tier item, than a those classes below them, such as a Leader or Captain, even a SubBoss.

 

 

Ok, now I am confused. I thought you changed it so that only Kings, and sub bosses dropped Epics now? Do leaders and captains still drop epics?


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Posted 17 July 2014 - 11:58 AM

think its time for a stream lol


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Posted 17 July 2014 - 12:38 PM

I was wondering last night just how do the percentages stack?? (I know percentages are incorrect there just examples)

eg epic Tier has say 2% chance to drop add epic drop medal and it will now be 4%

now if your using a bourg with drop skill 25% more drops, current costume 50% more drops, premium 50% more drops and double drop medal.........

your looking at over 3x drops how will this effect the 4% epic drops or can you not stack the drop medals with the epic drop medals?

 


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Posted 17 July 2014 - 02:24 PM

Ok, now I am confused. I thought you changed it so that only Kings, and sub bosses dropped Epics now? Do leaders and captains still drop epics?

 

Epic

Game Arena Dungeon: post-48-0-30233200-1405448728.png Leader & post-48-0-96103000-1405448726.png Captains are excluded from Epic drops.

 

 

Legendary

Game Arena Dungeon: post-48-0-96103000-1405448726.png Captains are excluded from Legendary drops.


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Posted 17 July 2014 - 02:30 PM

I was wondering last night just how do the percentages stack?? (I know percentages are incorrect there just examples)

eg epic Tier has say 2% chance to drop add epic drop medal and it will now be 4%

now if your using a bourg with drop skill 25% more drops, current costume 50% more drops, premium 50% more drops and double drop medal.........

your looking at over 3x drops how will this effect the 4% epic drops or can you not stack the drop medals with the epic drop medals?

It's the terminology.

 

First, the Extra Drop Chance is global, which means it affects all tiers of drops, Common through to Legendary.

 

The "Extra Drop Chance" is a multiplicative effect. Meaning, it will use the base rate and multiply it by the amount you have.

 

Let's say you have a 50% Extra Drop Chance

And the monster's base chance to drop is: 10%

10% + (10% * 50%) = 15%

 

If I use your example of a 2% base drop

2% + (2% * 50%) = 3%

 

Now, if I put the max reduction rate on the 2%

The base 2% becomes: 0.5%

0.5% + (0.5% * 50%) = 0.75%

 

The new drop medals are additive to the base chance.

Medal Gives +10%

And again the monster's base chance to drop is: 10%

10% + 10% = 20%

 

If I use your example of a 2% base drop

2% + 10% = 12%

 

Now, if I put the max reduction rate on the 2%

The base 2% becomes: 0.5%

0.5% + (0.5% + 10%) = 10.5%

 

Now this is why the medals are more powerful, because they do not change with level gap diminishing values. If you very high over a monster's level, you will have a very reduced base rate of chance and the Extra Drop Chance will multiply that reduced chance, while the new medals will still add the same amount.


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