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#76 Xellie

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Posted 29 October 2014 - 09:54 AM

In that case let me give Kali a high-five cause I've had an alliance trying to do the same crap to me.

 

And it never works. If they are dissatisfied with the state of WoE, perhaps they should be more introspective.


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Posted 29 October 2014 - 09:54 AM

I think it comes down to is it up to the GM team to prevent an alliance from bullying another guild into oblivion or should things be allowed to play out. I'm surprised though honestly, usually at some point someone realizes it's stupid and breaks off of the mega alliance and shakes things up. That's what's always happened previously.


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Posted 29 October 2014 - 09:55 AM

Do they have the population / political contacts to do this tho? I mean RO is really political no matter how anyone wishes to paint it. What's the opposing population like and do they have goals that they can work together on in order to fight ani+co?
 
Driving one player off a server sounds rather sinister to me. Isn't LR a major guild? Wouldn't driving her off the server have major population consequences? 
 
 
Also what would be the goal of allying up to fight against them? What would this achieve in their benefit? I know it's a lot of questions but.... something doesn't make sense to me.
 
Why must it be an alliance?


It's basically this:

Some people are too short-sighted. The solution to fixing woe isn't "FORCING" an alliance where people don't get along with each other (what's that good for, one single castle break? what more do you expect).



I don't know the exact details why it needs to be an Alliance vs Alliance, and why not Guild vs Guild, because I don't understand it myself.
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Posted 29 October 2014 - 09:55 AM

Do they have the population / political contacts to do this tho? I mean RO is really political no matter how anyone wishes to paint it. What's the opposing population like and do they have goals that they can work together on in order to fight ani+co?

 

Driving one player off a server sounds rather sinister to me. Isn't LR a major guild? Wouldn't driving her off the server have major population consequences? 

 

 

Also what would be the goal of allying up to fight against them? What would this achieve in their benefit? I know it's a lot of questions but.... something doesn't make sense to me.

 

Why must it be an alliance?

 

 

xellie leaders have tried with no vial. Just like your doing its time to point out what is going on, but without the help from us. What we did was eliminate our involvement, so that a better alliance can form, with out any past drama preventing it.


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Posted 29 October 2014 - 09:57 AM

I think it comes down to is it up to the GM team to prevent an alliance from bullying another guild into oblivion or should things be allowed to play out. I'm surprised though honestly, usually at some point someone realizes it's stupid and breaks off of the mega alliance and shakes things up. That's what's always happened previously.

 

Personally I always felt like it ~playing out~ was part of the game. But surely there's a point when the bullying side realize that what they are doing is counter-productive to what they wish to achieve?

 

It's kind of shocking to read this stuff, I thought ani was pro-fights not pro-farming - and you can't control what others will do to achieve that.
 

 

xellie leaders have tried with no vial. Just like your doing its time to point out what is going on, but without the help from us. What we did was eliminate our involvement, so that a better alliance can form, with out any past drama preventing it.

Why should they have to form an alliance because it's what your side want? Especially if the population doesn't support it....


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Posted 29 October 2014 - 09:59 AM

What we did was eliminate our involvement, so that a better alliance can form, with out any past drama preventing it.

 

Hail the WOE messiah.
 


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Posted 29 October 2014 - 09:59 AM

xellie leaders have tried with no vial. Just like your doing its time to point out what is going on, but without the help from us. What we did was eliminate our involvement, so that a better alliance can form, with out any past drama preventing it.

 

That makes absolutely 0 sense.

Do yourself a favor and read what you write sometime.

How is making the huge alliance stronger number wise going to make people want to rise up?

It's going to kill morale more and more and then there's going to be no one else to play against.

 

Hayroh keeps stating that your goal is to kill the server. He's stated that on youtube and even spams it almost daily in the shoutbox here on WP.

 

What will you do when no alliance forms? Will you stay and keep picking on smaller guilds that try to form?

 

If LR and Smokies didn't exist, would you stay where you are?

 

I think the question is yes, but prove me wrong.


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Posted 29 October 2014 - 09:59 AM

I think it comes down to is it up to the GM team to prevent an alliance from bullying another guild into oblivion or should things be allowed to play out. I'm surprised though honestly, usually at some point someone realizes it's stupid and breaks off of the mega alliance and shakes things up. That's what's always happened previously.

 

Bullying or chasing smaller guilds around the WoE maps is pretty much 99% of WoE.  It's getting old and as a result, new players are not showing up for WoE to get bullied more.  I've had people in Vent, mostly new members, annoyingly complain that a "certain" guild keeps following our guild and its getting old.  It is getting REALLY OLD hearing that when its been going on for awhile.  

 

Its not fun and they rarely show up the next week while new people replace them and the cycle starts all over again.  I should also mention that when small guilds get a castle, it results from finding an abandoned area and taking it without a fight.  is that fun? no. 


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Posted 29 October 2014 - 10:01 AM

Personally I always felt like it ~playing out~ was part of the game. But surely there's a point when the bullying side realize that what they are doing is counter-productive to what they wish to achieve?

 

It's kind of shocking to read this stuff, I thought ani was pro-fights not pro-farming - and you can't control what others will do to achieve that.
 

 

Why should they have to form an alliance because it's what your side want? Especially if the population doesn't support it....

 

 

because its the only way! Ani has made it very clear to the server they are not going to break alliance.


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Posted 29 October 2014 - 10:01 AM

I have to admit wiping a smallish guild in half a second is hilarious especially if they like to talk ****. Like ONCE. After that it's just mean and pointless though.


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Posted 29 October 2014 - 10:03 AM

Let's just say what everyone is thinking.....no one wants to fight a 170 person guild, and no one in a mob is ever going to try to do something unique. 


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Posted 29 October 2014 - 10:03 AM

That makes absolutely 0 sense.

Do yourself a favor and read what you write sometime.

How is making the huge alliance stronger number wise going to make people want to rise up?

It's going to kill morale more and more and then there's going to be no one else to play against.

 

Hayroh keeps stating that your goal is to kill the server. He's stated that on youtube and even spams it almost daily in the shoutbox here on WP.

 

What will you do when no alliance forms? Will you stay and keep picking on smaller guilds that try to form?

 

If LR and Smokies didn't exist, would you stay where you are?

 

I think the question is yes, but prove me wrong.

 

I will say this that when something is rotten to the core, sometimes it best to let it die so that it can reform. 


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Posted 29 October 2014 - 10:03 AM

because its the only way! Ani has made it very clear to the server they are not going to break alliance.

 

Is it true that animosity break the current 56 man guildcap?


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Posted 29 October 2014 - 10:03 AM

They are hoping a suitably sized alliance is created to fight them. They think Kali is holding back that "dream" though, which is why they think by driving her off the server, that alliance they've been dreaming of will finally form.

 

I dont get it though, *technically* that alliance would be made up of 3 guilds. They absorbed 1 of those guilds, they are currently bullying and trying to DESTROY 1 of the guilds off the server, and all thats left would be to fight 1 guild. Theres no competition what so ever, its just complete domination when its 3-4 guilds (alliance) vs 1 guild. 


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Posted 29 October 2014 - 10:04 AM

Let's just say what everyone is thinking.....no one wants to fight a 170 person guild, and no one in a mob is ever going to try to do something unique. 

 

 

no one wants to put in the work to do it, and the people who were are tired of doing it. Why this thread is made.


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Posted 29 October 2014 - 10:04 AM

xellie leaders have tried with no vial. Just like your doing its time to point out what is going on, but without the help from us. What we did was eliminate our involvement, so that a better alliance can form, with out any past drama preventing it.

 
ummmmm....
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Posted 29 October 2014 - 10:05 AM

Is it true that animosity break the current 56 man guildcap?


Animosity had 80 people last Saturday WoE (seriously).
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Posted 29 October 2014 - 10:06 AM

Animosity had 80 people last Saturday WoE (seriously).

 

How is CS/Sin numbers?


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Posted 29 October 2014 - 10:07 AM

because its the only way! Ani has made it very clear to the server they are not going to break alliance.

 

Then let me know again the reason why SL was dissolved. because we got bored fighting animosity alliance or something that you're trying hiding? i think everyone knows..

 

For you its funny a big alliance pissing off smalls guilds every WOE and holding econ castles 250+ days? are you sure that this you want vierma?


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Posted 29 October 2014 - 10:07 AM

Everyone wants to join the winning football team


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Posted 29 October 2014 - 10:08 AM

Animosity had 80 people last Saturday WoE (seriously).

 

 

not what they used to be no where near the numbers and strength of its formor self. Not that they are not trying to get back there. 


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Posted 29 October 2014 - 10:09 AM

How is CS/Sin numbers?


I don't know exactly, but I think it's around 3x for each of them.
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Posted 29 October 2014 - 10:09 AM

no one wants to put in the work to do it, and the people who were are tired of doing it. Why this thread is made.

 

People have been TRYING to put the work into it, and it's not happening. At this point most of the people who are WoEing are in guilds, what exactly to you propose is done? Where is the opposing alliance supposed to get members from, exactly?


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Posted 29 October 2014 - 10:10 AM

Everyone wants to join the winning football team

 

Only way to prevent bandwagoning is to destroy a bandwagon's reputation. :gg:


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Posted 29 October 2014 - 10:11 AM

ok so Anim practically outnumbers the other alliance by themselves?

 

Where are they supposed to make up the rest of the numbers?

 

And why does this have to happen again? Sounds like some kids are crying for sprinkles despite being told they're all gone.


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