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#76 Ashuckel

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Posted 12 November 2015 - 01:46 AM

I don't use edits at all, but if there were two I would love to be officially made it would be bigger cards (just slightly bigger as to notice them over junk) and increased zoom (to feel less packed in tight/small maps).

With that said, using none at all is still fine, but they would be neat additions.


They've already said zoom hack and bigcard mod were fine on a previous thread(wichim not gonna quote cuz im on phone and im lazy to search for it lol)
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#77 Xellie

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Posted 12 November 2015 - 11:49 AM

Maybe a list of specifically OK edits would be a better way to go about it.

 

For example they could post something like:

 

GRF edits that are ok:

 

- Big card

- Cast circles

- Aura colours

- Minimaps

 

Anything that falls outside of these specific edits could be grounds for suspension

 

 


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Posted 12 November 2015 - 12:06 PM

half of those should be illegal I don't understand why they're being allowed in the first place :/ this is bad. Bigger cards and mini maps are clear advantages over the vanilla client. This is a clear gap between newbies and vets :x badbadbad.
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Posted 12 November 2015 - 12:23 PM

They've already said zoom hack and bigcard mod were fine on a previous thread(wichim not gonna quote cuz im on phone and im lazy to search for it lol)

 

Oh I know, I mean official releases for them.


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Posted 12 November 2015 - 12:28 PM

half of those should be illegal I don't understand why they're being allowed in the first place :/ this is bad. Bigger cards and mini maps are clear advantages over the vanilla client. This is a clear gap between newbies and vets :x badbadbad.

 

Just my noob guess. It is because most "veterans" already been using al sorts of edits to get advantages. Removing it will make them rage quit just like how they've never been able to remove Gramps.


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Posted 12 November 2015 - 12:35 PM

Good, let the babies rage quit! Those weaks sauce cheaters need all kinds of crutches to play after all this time? I've been playing for over 10 years and I still have the vanilla client. Clearly these people aren't as good as they think yhey are if they need to cheat to compete. Wash the server, I am done with this pathetic filth.
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Posted 12 November 2015 - 01:03 PM

So this set of legal cheats goes out for those that can and are capable of doing/using/programming/editing.

And seems noone can ask how/if/when about it.\

Sounds about right along the path of bots, which you lets farm and vend on the market.

Along with all yr stupid scams and hacks.


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Posted 12 November 2015 - 02:59 PM

jRO sprite lives matter
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Posted 13 November 2015 - 04:59 AM

https://forums.warpp...p/#entry2323712

 

lol am I the only person who feels like the first post of this thread doesn't answer that question anyway?


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Posted 13 November 2015 - 08:26 PM

Good, let the babies rage quit! Those weaks sauce cheaters need all kinds of crutches to play after all this time? I've been playing for over 10 years and I still have the vanilla client. Clearly these people aren't as good as they think yhey are if they need to cheat to compete. Wash the server, I am done with this pathetic filth.


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Posted 13 November 2015 - 09:55 PM

 

Good, let the babies rage quit! Those weaks sauce cheaters need all kinds of crutches to play after all this time? I've been playing for over 10 years and I still have the vanilla client. Clearly these people aren't as good as they think yhey are if they need to cheat to compete. Wash the server, I am done with this pathetic filth.

 

 

I think she means you because you're one of those people, auto speed and auto gang me ;>


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Posted 14 November 2015 - 05:34 AM

You know better than to do that. Don't by pass the filters with images.

 

Oh I just noticed this... no suspension for him? That great honor is reserved for the chosen few <3 i mean that was clearly deliberate and in no way a misunderstanding... yet I was punished and apparently this is ok.

 

no I won't let it go until an apology lol. I'm going to keep pointing out the difference in treatment until it's acknowledged. Treat the volunteers equal or better... not worse.

 

Then maybe we won't keep ragequitting because of stress... Just seeing this treatment difference alone made me take back my decision to return.

 

No offense calza.


Edited by Xellie, 14 November 2015 - 05:47 AM.

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Posted 14 November 2015 - 06:27 AM

All forms of GRF edit should remain illegal. Or I'll possibly ragequit and never return until I get what I want.
 
Wait I'm not the chosen few

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Edited by Kebtung, 14 November 2015 - 06:29 AM.

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Posted 14 November 2015 - 11:30 AM

Half of those should be illegal I don't understand why they're being allowed in the first place :/ this is bad. Bigger cards and mini maps are clear advantages over the vanilla client. This is a clear gap between newbies and vets :x badbadbad.

 

They should provide an official DL via iWiki for these modifications for those who wish to use them, if they won't ban for it. You can't tell people "This is allowed but we can't tell you how to get it", that's where you're giving an advantage to people with better resources.

 

I agree with the list of allowed edits appended in this post myself.

https://forums.warpp...3pps/?p=2272629


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Posted 14 November 2015 - 02:27 PM

To the people that say it should be illegal. How do you police a flat map?
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Posted 15 November 2015 - 05:34 AM

Randomly google'ed images (omited servers/chars name just in case)

Normal client
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Modded status ailment grf
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I dont think i need to further explain why this should not be allowed right?(unless iRO team disponibilizes this for every single person)

 

I just want to clarify something, does that mean the picture below with the status ailment being text allowed o_O?

 

also i just want to know if changing just the look of the LP in the picture with the status ailment being text is also allowed O_O? i'm seeing like a 313 text.


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Posted 15 November 2015 - 06:09 AM

how the hell is the word frozen better than a giant piece of ice, I wanna punch whoever made that grf. though, it shouldn't be allowed imo. 

 

 

also, how do I setup big cards if that's a thing now


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Posted 15 November 2015 - 09:04 AM

Oh I just noticed this... no suspension for him? That great honor is reserved for the chosen few <3 i mean that was clearly deliberate and in no way a misunderstanding... yet I was punished and apparently this is ok.

 

no I won't let it go until an apology lol. I'm going to keep pointing out the difference in treatment until it's acknowledged. Treat the volunteers equal or better... not worse.

 

Then maybe we won't keep ragequitting because of stress... Just seeing this treatment difference alone made me take back my decision to return.

 

No offense calza.

 

Taken and remembered.

 

how the hell is the word frozen better than a giant piece of ice, I wanna punch whoever made that grf. though, it shouldn't be allowed imo. 

 

 

also, how do I setup big cards if that's a thing now

 

We're not allowed to discuss how. It's legit, but we can't discuss it.


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Posted 15 November 2015 - 11:33 AM

Ex. Big Card Edits (Please note replacing monster or player sprites can be viewed as giving players an unfair advantage and may result in account suspension)


Okay, so how big are we talking about...

For example, can I make it this big?

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Posted 18 November 2015 - 04:45 AM

^

3 Cards on screen and you cant see -_-.

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Posted 18 November 2015 - 02:54 PM

We're not allowed to discuss how. It's legit, but we can't discuss it.

 

Just bring up some topics on the RO Reddit or iW or something. These forums aren't really used "productively" except to complain or spam requests at the CMs anyway.


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Posted 24 November 2015 - 05:25 AM

I don't think gray map should be allowed. It is a very advantageous edit, more than just a qol. In mvping it allows you to bypass the environment where one can be hiding the mvp or tomb (this is a strategic move), and in woe you can use it to navigate through the castles without the obstacles of walls, stairs and other environmental disabilities that one without gray map would be adhere to facing. It can be compared to editing a sprite to be bigger, which is not allowed.

Edited for phone typoes

Edited by KamiKali, 24 November 2015 - 05:27 AM.

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Posted 24 November 2015 - 08:36 AM

I don't think gray map should be allowed. It is a very advantageous edit, more than just a qol. In mvping it allows you to bypass the environment where one can be hiding the mvp or tomb (this is a strategic move), and in woe you can use it to navigate through the castles without the obstacles of walls, stairs and other environmental disabilities that one without gray map would be adhere to facing. It can be compared to editing a sprite to be bigger, which is not allowed.

Edited for phone typoes


You can get much the same effect with RCX/Expanded ROSimpleHook by turning textures off and cell highlighting on, and it doesn't require any GRF editing at all.

Does that mean we need to prohibit those again too D:

Not that I agree with greymap. I think it's just silly. Wondering about the comparative benefits though.
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Posted 24 November 2015 - 11:43 AM

disable the camera in ro so it can no longer be turned then


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Posted 24 November 2015 - 12:30 PM

You cant police those who use edited clients (assuming any client edits were illegal) but when they need supports and a screenshot is required ie to verify MVP card reporting a matter, they cant get a support because by submitting a screenshot of edited client is a self defeating purpose. 

But we all know WP doesnt really care anyway. There has been couple WOE videos of illegal edits and I dont think those cheaters get banned at all  :heh:  :heh:  :heh:


Edited by ChakriGuard, 24 November 2015 - 01:02 PM.

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