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#1 Xellie

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Posted 04 February 2016 - 09:52 AM

According to discussion in this thread edits that are purely cosmetic/help with client performance are completely okay.

 

Graphical Edits that are purely Cosmetic in Nature

 

Certain Edits that help with client performance

 

 

jRO sprites are not ours to approve. A card sprite change or grey world modification is not adding content that is literally new and exclusive to another version of the game. 

Since this thread was posted a large number of players have been using the greyworld/flatmap edit.

 

Quoting another poster from the original thread...

 

 

one question regarding greyworld. It absolutely remove everything from map and left only the gray tile. That make me thinking, on certain map, you will need to rotate the screen to actually see people hiding in certain spot. For example, Mid Payon castle. On the entrance, there is a big ass tree that block the view of whoever hiding behind it. But if you have greyworld, then you should be able to see pass that tree. 

 

Is this kind of advantage is really allow? It will make a whole difference since you dont need to rotate your screen anymore to get clearer view.

 

 

So, here's some screenshots of the same character in exactly the same place, with and without the edit.

 

 

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Should this be allowed? Is it okay? The wording is so ambiguous that people are using it and posting videos claiming its okay as well as spreading it. Does it provide an unfair advantage?


Edited by Xellie, 04 February 2016 - 09:54 AM.

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Posted 04 February 2016 - 09:58 AM

not really sure how you could enforce it. if it were made illegal people would just stop posting vids. there's no guarantee they stop using it.
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Posted 04 February 2016 - 09:58 AM

why u not just allow all hacks in the game as if u ban someone hahahahahha

maya p hack bots and skillhacks everywhere gm needs glasses lol


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Posted 04 February 2016 - 09:59 AM

honestly, whatever you did to the client, gm cant detect that>_>
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Posted 04 February 2016 - 10:00 AM

the thing is, if it's not publicized by popular players or "okayed" by the staff, it won't spread as much. I'm aware it won't go away. But I don't think promoting it is the way to go.


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Posted 04 February 2016 - 10:04 AM

People who are bothered with this will always find their way doing it. Because if someone is editing their map tile by this far, must be SO into the game they don't give a damn about anything else. I'd have more fun playing Tic Tac Toe than playing looking at grey tiles.

Also, CM need to address this in more detail.
 

 

 

  • Graphical Edits that are purely Cosmetic in Nature

"Cosmetic" is too vague. Also, Because some of the cosmetic stuffs are licensed, it should specify what is allowed and what is not in detail. Not just giving 1 example.


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Posted 04 February 2016 - 10:06 AM

Once player have this knowledge...it's addicting :) never enough, they will try to tweak more. I saw a guy just by clicking awake/berserk pot...turn to deviruchi/rays/banshee transformation scroll to trick server aspd whatever...how sick is that huhuh


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Posted 04 February 2016 - 10:13 AM

People who are bothered with this will always find their way doing it. Because if someone is editing their map tile by this far, must be SO into the game they don't give a damn about anything else. 

it was actually just made with the purpose of reducing lag

you can have it change every single map in the game which tends to be the most common version youll find on sea pserver forums


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Posted 04 February 2016 - 10:14 AM

"Cosmetic" is too VAGUE. Also, Because some of the cosmetic stuffs are licensed, it should specify what is allowed and what is not in detail. Not just giving 1 example.


Yup, waiting on a response on my ticket and pm for over 4 months
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Posted 04 February 2016 - 10:18 AM

My god I want that grey map for hunting monsters!!!


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Posted 04 February 2016 - 10:26 AM

no more hidden tombstones.
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Posted 04 February 2016 - 10:30 AM

not really sure how you could enforce it. if it were made illegal people would just stop posting vids. there's no guarantee they stop using it.

 

I'd like to apply this logic to autopot then please.


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Posted 04 February 2016 - 10:32 AM

 

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Looks like they're trying to play this:

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Posted 04 February 2016 - 10:34 AM

I'd like to apply this logic to autopot then please.


except people can see others using AP? you can't see someone else's greyworld.
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Posted 04 February 2016 - 10:35 AM

not really since they can claim its wtfast+leatrix+scrollywheel/macro+skilled good reactions/coincidence.


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Posted 04 February 2016 - 10:36 AM

yeah but that's not stopping people from mass-reporting one another when woe reports was a thing. not really seeing how that would be the case w/ grey world.
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Posted 04 February 2016 - 10:44 AM

I personally believe that any editing of the grfs should always be illegal.  Unfortunately, as others have mentioned, these kind of modifications are near impossible to detect.

On a side note, I don't understand why people like playing with mods like that grey mod.  The game looks awful that way.


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Posted 04 February 2016 - 10:44 AM

epeen purposes
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Posted 04 February 2016 - 10:45 AM

whatever

 

as a sinx player I can do without hayroh teaching everyone about this through his videos lol


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Posted 04 February 2016 - 11:18 AM

If it allows people to see things you usually wouldn't under some circunstances, seems like an advantage? gms have gone the "if you can't stop it, allow it" route with it so whatever. I still remember when a big chunk of a guild in renewal got banned from posting videos using graymap!


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Posted 04 February 2016 - 12:01 PM

whatever

 

as a sinx player I can do without hayroh teaching everyone about this through his videos lol

 

You have to admit though its an excellent tool for hunting monsters outside of WoE! I'd be perfectly fine with it in a non PvP Environment.


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Posted 04 February 2016 - 12:02 PM

You can't prove that people are using it.

 

People on Classic don't have many Maya Purple cards unless they cheat

 

Rcx does something similar

 

Other cheats are more profound and game breaking


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Posted 04 February 2016 - 12:43 PM

Again

 

You can't prove it but it shouldn't be condoned.


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Posted 04 February 2016 - 12:49 PM

You know.............if people are gonna make a greyworld mod for this game, why cant they make more useful mods...like, voluptuous melons mod.


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Posted 04 February 2016 - 12:58 PM

You know.............if people are gonna make a greyworld mod for this game, why cant they make more useful mods...like, voluptuous melons mod.


this guy gets it
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