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#26 Ashuckel

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Posted 04 May 2016 - 07:16 AM

I cant even...
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Posted 04 May 2016 - 07:34 AM

Well, the low reuse delay on the CR comes from the headgear tho :v, is the new bio nightmare instance, because, also adding dmg on soul expansion remove 2 sec of the CR cooldown on if +10, or thats what i read on the description. I dont know about the CL spam on the FWQ, but to me it looks like the video is speed up, maybe im wrong.


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#28 Jezs69

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Posted 04 May 2016 - 07:35 AM

I cant even...

 

I feel the same way

 

I'd like to quote where you posted the difference from thorn staff+skull cap combo vs cod+sod where the difference was just 40something matk but I forgot where you posted it.
 


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Posted 04 May 2016 - 08:29 AM

I cant even...

 

what? you think PVM is hard? 

 

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Posted 04 May 2016 - 09:02 AM

Well, the low reuse delay on the CR comes from the headgear tho :v, is the new bio nightmare instance, because, also adding dmg on soul expansion remove 2 sec of the CR cooldown on if +10, or thats what i read on the description. I dont know about the CL spam on the FWQ, but to me it looks like the video is speed up, maybe im wrong.

 

yea that wl speeds some of her vids


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Posted 04 May 2016 - 09:15 AM

what? you think PVM is hard? 

 

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Me and ash are from the same country. Maybe he's refering to the latency problems that most of us here have in playing in iRO.

 

What makes me more envious from these videos is not the gears, nor the damage, neither the instacast, but how the character seems to obey perfectly to her commands...

 

BTW, returning to the original topic (somehow), does anybody here knows how much an Amdarais Card would cost? And how about a Naght Sieger Card?


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#32 Jezs69

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Posted 04 May 2016 - 09:30 AM

From searching the forum it seems that it's 7B for the Amdarais.

 

B>Amdarais Card 7B


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Posted 04 May 2016 - 09:34 AM

No, im referring about how every 2-3 posts there's an incorrect RO mechanic vomit

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Posted 04 May 2016 - 09:54 AM

Saying the TSOD set is superior than the 2handed Staff of Destruction (SoD) + Ordinary Black Magician Hat (OBMH) set is subjective at best.  I'll agree each set has its own advantages and really depends on their playstyle.  It's also OK to debate something when you think a person is wrong.

 

But what you're implying is that I'm flat out wrong.  I'd advise you to provide an explanation why.  Otherwise, you're, too, are spitting out unproductive vomit.

 

Here, I'll start.

 

These are proofs that SoD/OBMH is superior in damage than the TSOD set.  I gave you the benefit of the doubt and excluded racial cards from SoD and the unrelated Mora set.

 

F4L0f4I.png

 

Document Source (created by me): Link

Formulas/Gear Source: irowiki.org

 

So please, explain to me what you mean by my incorrect iRO mechanic vomit?


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Posted 04 May 2016 - 11:35 AM

I want you to quote me where the hell i said TSOD has better damage. Not in this reality pretty much.
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Posted 04 May 2016 - 11:38 AM

Btw, matk per refine = equipment matk bu has a variable range ;)

The obly thing that changes for matk calculation is the weapon base matk, but you should know that...
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Posted 04 May 2016 - 11:55 AM

Btw, matk per refine = equipment matk bu has a variable range ;)

The obly thing that changes for matk calculation is the weapon base matk, but you should know that...

 

The range is 0-14, so I gave it the median value of 7.

 

And you still haven't explained what you meant in regards to "incorrect RO mechanic vomit".  I'm open to criticism, and im in no way perfect on numbers but do strive for accuracy.


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Posted 04 May 2016 - 12:05 PM

I saw that video before and i was like, wtf, is nice that CR get the power up it deserve XD i mean, 200k CR is no joke :0

also it is on frozen target, which is 90% dmg of CR. huhuhu....

magic users buffed recently since most of new updates give buffs to MaTK


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Posted 04 May 2016 - 12:35 PM

gladly xD


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Posted 04 May 2016 - 09:16 PM

i am not amazed with the damage, i am only interested in the instant cast with decent reuse delay. CR has 2 sec fixed cast. -1 from temp and costume. the remaining 1 sec cant be just from radius? Maybe fenrir hat? that still 0.3 sec left with only mid slot for kiel.

 

My WL is only 151/52 so i have no experience on 175/60 WL.


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Posted 05 May 2016 - 06:21 AM

She said that all Warlock skills have 1 sec fixed cast, except for Soul Expansion, which have no fixed cast, and one more that I don't remember. I really can't conceive that CR has 2 secs fixed time. I can try to measure the time manually with 100% VCT reduction gear, but I'm 100% sure that it's not the 1.5s that should be with radius reductions alone on my WL. Maybe your source of information is wrong or outdated. If I'm wrong, maybe CR's FCT was reduced to 1s in kRO, I don't know. Though I'm more prone to believe that it's already 1s in iRO.


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Posted 05 May 2016 - 07:14 AM

Lol im going to said the same, i asked that warlock on her/his video and answer the thing posted before (i was the one asking on the youtube video lol xD)


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Posted 06 May 2016 - 01:47 AM

Brynn for easy soloing and aoe farming, Amdarais hero magic coat for maximum dmg.

 

 


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Posted 06 May 2016 - 06:39 AM

Brynn for easy soloing and aoe farming, Amdarais hero magic coat for maximum dmg.

 

I actually spent a long time thinking about it, and came to the same conclusion. Amdarais if in party (or for easy runs), Brynhild for tough solo runs, though I'd put the Amdarais in a Diabolus Robe, so that my lower level Warlock, my soon to be Sorcerer and my Ranger will be able to use it too. Brynhild will be useful for my RK.

The problem is the money needed to buy this setup.


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Posted 06 May 2016 - 09:04 AM

DAMN this rich people :v...i say...i stick to my agav valk armor or my hero magic robe xDDD....lol jk, i think both are right for party things but Amdarais of course is the best for the 15% MATK boost aside Bryn wich have only 10%. Anyway both get you killed on some instances because of the lack of elemental reduction tho :x, is like that you have 29k HP, but if i have to chose one, ill go for Amdarais.


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Posted 06 May 2016 - 09:18 AM

Anyway both get you killed on some instances because of the lack of elemental reduction tho :x, is like that you have 29k HP, but if i have to chose one, ill go for Amdarais.

 

That's why at times a Warlock Mora set 10x better than MVP/God items.  Having Celia do 40/hit Lightning storm damage is quite funny.


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Posted 06 May 2016 - 09:35 AM

DAMN this rich people :v...i say...i stick to my agav valk armor or my hero magic robe xDDD....lol jk, i think both are right for party things but Amdarais of course is the best for the 15% MATK boost aside Bryn wich have only 10%. Anyway both get you killed on some instances because of the lack of elemental reduction tho :x, is like that you have 29k HP, but if i have to chose one, ill go for Amdarais.

 

As for me, all of this is just a dream... unless i get really lucky and find some MVP cards, or if I'm lucky enough to far 1 piece of bako spirit a week, which won't happen...

 

That's why at times a Warlock Mora set 10x better than MVP/God items.  Having Celia do 40/hit Lightning storm damage is quite funny.

 

LOL. You talk as if Warlocks ever get invited in bio 4 parties.  :p_laugh:

 

JK... Celia requires an unfrozen wind armor for guaranteed survavibility, though. With your Golden Rod Robe alone she can freeze you, and bye bye.


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Posted 06 May 2016 - 09:47 AM

JK... Celia requires an unfrozen wind armor for guaranteed survavibility, though. With your Golden Rod Robe alone she can freeze you, and bye bye.

 

 

That's false, unless you have less than ~70VIT or less than 20k HP.  

 

Wear a Golden Rod Orb and Golden rod Robe (10Mdef).  The ORB -15% wind, Cranial, Combat knife, Red Pom Band reduction still applies when frozen along with your natural MDEF.   You're still reducing >65% damage with your magic defense.

 

But you WILL die without a cranial on.


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Posted 06 May 2016 - 10:16 AM

The actual deadly thing on bio4 are the Fireballs tbh. Thuderstorm is nullified by ME, and you can see when there's one coming and prepare yourself. For fireball, if 3 celias decide to use it at the same time, it will be pretty much rip unless your are playing a more supportive role, not dmg.

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Posted 06 May 2016 - 10:26 AM

You shouldn't be playing a damage role in bio4 in the first place LOL.

 

And yea hearing that Fireball "Schwooze!" and seeing the rangers go SPLAT does suck.


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