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#51 Kusanagisama

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Posted 06 May 2016 - 10:37 AM

That's false, unless you have less than ~70VIT or less than 20k HP.  

 

Wear a Golden Rod Orb and Golden rod Robe (10Mdef).  The ORB -15% wind, Cranial, Combat knife, Red Pom Band reduction still applies when frozen along with your natural MDEF.   You're still reducing >65% damage with your magic defense.

 

But you WILL die without a cranial on.

 

You're right. I forgot about the orb and the shoes. I still don't have a RPB, though... on my way to buy one this weekend, and try to +9 it...

 

I agree about the fireballs though. I never died to a single fb, but when multiple Celias combine their powers, it's really bad. As for the Thunder Storms, though, you've never been betrayed by your team's sorc? Like, you are killing a Celia, she sends a TS, you position yourself inside ME, then your sorc proceeds to trollface and move the ME a few cells, so that you get killed. Of course, these are not intentional (most of the time, at least), but happen all the time.


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Posted 06 May 2016 - 10:45 AM

Well the shoes are optional if you are low level, but i've rolled with superior temp dex and have had no problem.

 

It's also nice using my empowered golden rod staff set to 1-shot the Champs.  And ganbentain Pneumas.  It's pretty fun to get away from the monotonous JF/SG1 spam.


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Posted 06 May 2016 - 11:12 AM

I think i have met you in Bio4 parties a few time when i was lvling my ranger. Whenever you use jack frost i sigh-ed and facepalmed, but then i realized i am a warlock player too and calmed myself thinking this must be how ppl view me when i play warlock.

 

If not coz GMT i would abandon my WL completely even though it has +12 kvm.

 

On a side not, my ranger doesnt die from fb, it has 9x vit and only +10 CEB though.


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Posted 06 May 2016 - 02:59 PM

You shouldn't be playing a damage role in bio4 in the first place LOL.

You shouldn't play something you can't make it work. If u have the gears and knowledge to be good at it, just do your thing and don't give a f about what others say.
 


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Posted 06 May 2016 - 06:10 PM

You shouldn't play something you can't make it work. If u have the gears and knowledge to be good at it, just do your thing and don't give a f about what others say.
 

 

You can make anything work, but is it practical? No.  Not in the context of most bio4 parties.  You need to learn how to reply to threads where the original poster is an average player with few exceptional gears.

And any average warlock, no matter the skill, will be dead weight if they try to be a "damage dealer" in bio4. 

 

lol get real.  I shouldn't have bothered replying to your posts, but I care enough to warn other players of your misguided "knowledge".

 

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Posted 06 May 2016 - 07:31 PM

Well, the way you distort all my posting and want to be the voice of reason surelly is misguiding. Don't do this and everyone will be happy.

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Posted 06 May 2016 - 08:59 PM

Nah, i am sure if warlock class get deleted from RO, everything will just continue as it is, the only thing that make warlock look viable is you guys who hype all the solo levelling build and introduction of GMT.

 

In Bio4, you can do anything as warlock, support or offensive, and ppl would not care as long as you doesnt change the mobs element to water at wrong time. (if you get invited to party LOL).


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Posted 11 May 2016 - 09:19 AM

No, it was Hell inferno before and changed it to Crimson Rock.

 

She also wears Magic Executioner + Tempest shadow set @_@

That's why her dmg output against demihuman is quite high.


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Posted 11 May 2016 - 09:42 AM

Btw sigma, there was a robe that gives 14% matk when lv140 right? Slotted too
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Posted 11 May 2016 - 09:50 AM

Btw sigma, there was a robe that gives 14% matk when lv140 right? Slotted too

 

Yes. That's Fictitious Robe from 16.2

 

http://www.divine-pr...se/item/15163/1

 

Do not mix up with Flattering Robe from 16.1 which that warlock wears, grants her Matk+150 at lv 140.

 

http://www.divine-pr...se/item/15146/1


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Posted 11 May 2016 - 09:51 AM

Im not sure about The % but yes there is a robe on kro that do that
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Posted 11 May 2016 - 10:11 AM

i am not amazed with the damage, i am only interested in the instant cast with decent reuse delay. CR has 2 sec fixed cast. -1 from temp and costume. the remaining 1 sec cant be just from radius? Maybe fenrir hat? that still 0.3 sec left with only mid slot for kiel.

My WL is only 151/52 so i have no experience on 175/60 WL.


Green Lichtern in Old Magic Stone Hat and Red Lichtern in Monocle.
So there's no room for Fenrir and Kiel on her head anymore. lol

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Posted 11 May 2016 - 10:23 AM

Yeah i was thinking on Flattering Robe, i wasnt sure how much add but, considering the robe, is pretty much the only thing we are going to wear xD, just carded with anything you want and bam


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Posted 11 May 2016 - 10:31 AM

Green Lichtern in Old Magic Stone Hat and Red Lichtern in Monocle.
So there's no room for Fenrir and Kiel on her head anymore. lol

 

No need for it too, with 0 FCT. She just has to chose between +10% MATK or +50 flat MATK...


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Posted 11 May 2016 - 10:37 AM

2 Warlock Kathryn? Do we even have hwiz card in chaos ?

 

Also these 2 robes from 16.1 and 16.2 look promising. Only noob warloks like mine default Bryn anyways.


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Posted 11 May 2016 - 11:25 AM

No need for it too, with 0 FCT. She just has to chose between +10% MATK or +50 flat MATK...

 

How did she achieve 0 FCT?

 

EDIT: Just remembered the -0.5 sec costume stone paired with temp dex lol


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Posted 11 May 2016 - 12:05 PM

Green Lichtern in Old Magic Stone Hat and Red Lichtern in Monocle.
So there's no room for Fenrir and Kiel on her head anymore. lol

 

You seems to know much about kRO, so i would like you to verify the information on irowiki about warlock's spells especially the cast time. or maybe just crimson rock cast time.

 

Does it match with kRO? or it is outdated? Might need to test ingame too.

 

 


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Posted 11 May 2016 - 12:24 PM

2 Warlock Kathryn? Do we even have hwiz card in chaos ?

 

Also these 2 robes from 16.1 and 16.2 look promising. Only noob warloks like mine default Bryn anyways.

 

LOL! I'd love to be a "n00b" warlock with a Brynhild. :heh:

 

Better save your Amdarais Card for when we get these robes.  :thumb2:


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Posted 11 May 2016 - 04:10 PM

O.o?

 

Crimson Rock has a higher damage output than Chain Lightning and almost as close damage as Comet.


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Posted 11 May 2016 - 04:40 PM

I've tested in my server and found that crimson rock has 1 fixed casting time (test by did 100% variable casting time reduction). Have you tested in IRO?
And just normal mobs cards from nightmare biolab that can be put on weapon. MVP cards for garment.

Because it is so ridiculous if she put 2 MVP cards on weapon but didn't put normal card which can grants her Matk+15%, all stat+20 in garment. Because she just put Nightmare ancient mummy card on her garment.


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Posted 12 May 2016 - 06:50 AM

Do not mix up with Flattering Robe from 16.1 which that warlock wears, grants her Matk+150 at lv 140.

 

http://www.divine-pr...se/item/15146/1

 

Because F.U., Entweihen Crothen Card! :heh:

 

O.o?

 

Crimson Rock has a higher damage output than Chain Lightning and almost as close damage as Comet.

 

Going back to reality, what do you think of the Hero Magic Robe in comparison to the Diabolus Robe, Haseo? I didn't test it yet because... reasons... but I'd like to know your opinion nonetheless.


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Posted 12 May 2016 - 07:02 AM

I've tested in my server and found that crimson rock has 1 fixed casting time (test by did 100% variable casting time reduction). Have you tested in IRO?

 

Skill Formulas Post-Balance 2011 

 

Crimson rock has 2 seconds Fixed.

 

What server are you referring to lmao.


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Posted 12 May 2016 - 07:55 AM

TRO=Thai RO?


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Posted 12 May 2016 - 07:55 AM

Skill Formulas Post-Balance 2011 

 

Crimson rock has 2 seconds Fixed.

 

What server are you referring to lmao.

 

Idk what is the reason for putting lmao at the end.

 

But, my honest guess is you already test and confirm in iRO, crimson rock has 2 sec fix cast?

 

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Posted 12 May 2016 - 07:57 AM

Skill Formulas Post-Balance 2011 

 

Crimson rock has 2 seconds Fixed.

 

What server are you referring to lmao.

 

I tested in TRO. You should recheck it since it's almost 5 years after that balance.
 


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