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#51 Doral

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Posted 28 February 2018 - 03:54 PM


Price will hike but total server zeny amount will decrease without them RIP new players tho.

LOL salty about being safe to 7 dependent and booster dependent ?
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Posted 28 February 2018 - 04:08 PM

Price will hike but total server zeny amount will decrease without them RIP new players tho.

LOL salty about being safe to 7 dependent and booster dependent ?

 

And how, pray tell, does the removal of upgrading items affect the total amount of zeny on the server? Zeny doesn't disappear just because it isn't moving.

 

You know what happens when you jack up prices? You increase the demand for zeny, thus increasing the number of gold farming bots, thus increasing the speed at which zeny accumulates on the server, and thus causing more inflation.

 

Common sense, it's become so rare it should be considered a -_- superpower.


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Posted 28 February 2018 - 06:19 PM

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Edited by VModMango, 28 February 2018 - 06:27 PM.
no naming shops, players, etc.

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#54 ClickClickClick

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Posted 28 February 2018 - 06:24 PM

Yerp.. She's kind of a bitch..

 

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Posted 28 February 2018 - 06:40 PM

Well, sorry, I didn't know that I too can't name shops...

 

Only that the mods here could agree that setting up stores with the zeny cap to control market has to be stopped. The same person has been done this for days and the least players could do is to tell people about it, you're just doing more harm keeping those names at bay than letting us discuss this freely. 

 

Peace out


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Posted 28 February 2018 - 06:41 PM

Only that the mods here could agree that setting up stores with the zeny cap to control market has to be stopped. The same person has been done this for days and the least players could do is to tell people about it, you're just doing more harm keeping those names at bay than letting us discuss this freely.


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Posted 28 February 2018 - 06:49 PM

Well, sorry, I didn't know that I too can't name shops...

 

Only that the mods here could agree that setting up stores with the zeny cap to control market has to be stopped. 

 

You wish they cared lol


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Posted 28 February 2018 - 09:04 PM

And how, pray tell, does the removal of upgrading items affect the total amount of zeny on the server? Zeny doesn't disappear just because it isn't moving.

 

You know what happens when you jack up prices? You increase the demand for zeny, thus increasing the number of gold farming bots, thus increasing the speed at which zeny accumulates on the server, and thus causing more inflation.

 

Common sense, it's become so rare it should be considered a -_- superpower.

 

 

you need more common sense than i do brotha.

 

even you with probably 100b would buy something worth 1b and break it from +4-5 thanks to me if that happens 

 

back to you kid. think straight superpower


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#59 ClickClickClick

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Posted 28 February 2018 - 10:24 PM

Okay, let's examine your argument here.

 

There are places in the world, especially during droughts, where there are serious food shortages. People, trying to profit off it, will drive hundreds of miles to neighboring countries, buy things like milk, eggs, rice and beans, then return home with it to sell at exorbitant prices. Literally trying to charge people 100 USD for a gallon of milk, and because people are desperate and starving, they will pay these prices, especially so in order to make sure their kids can eat.

 

What we learn from this is that the few people that can secure and sell a product are incredibly likely to, and in fact will, charge insane prices, and the only people that suffer for it are the ones paying said prices. If the product was more abundant, people selling said product would have far more competitive prices, such as the kind you find at a grocery store, where as in a situation where demand is greater than supply, those in need are the ones to compete, trying to out bid each other, allowing the seller far greater financial gain for far less effort.

 

Your argument however, seems to be that if all the food disappears all the money will too, completely disregarding the fact that people still need to eat. Does that about cover it? Do you even read what you write?


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Posted 01 March 2018 - 02:40 AM

Your argument is true, people will naturally respond to supply and demand.

 

I've based my words from your fat man that eats more burgers.

 

I was talking about SERVER ZENY not one of your OP schemes, and I clearly said in my opinion.

 

You can have yours, i can have mine, get a life this is going nowhere


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Posted 01 March 2018 - 02:56 AM

didnt people get banned for scamming the vending before with the whole strawberry thing?

 

dont understand that one can set up shop if youreach the cap limit in zenies.. it should autoclose the shop immediately


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Posted 01 March 2018 - 03:09 AM

Your argument is true, people will naturally respond to supply and demand.

 

I've based my words from your fat man that eats more burgers.

 

I was talking about SERVER ZENY not one of your OP schemes, and I clearly said in my opinion.

 

You can have yours, i can have mine, get a life this is going nowhere

 

you dont get it and thats fine, but even so your idea will never be implemented because WP has to eat too so asking for upgrade events to stop has 0% chance of ever happening, aside from the fact that failing equipment doesnt make the zeny disappear, they just go to someone else. But the less items there are overall on the server (as you propose by making things fail at +4 while most stuff has to be +7/+9 to even be useful), the same zeny is going to compete for less items in the server, resulting in even higher prices.

 

Your idea is bad.


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#63 JadeMountain

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Posted 01 March 2018 - 03:12 AM

feel that  programmer's year of 2000 bug replay history on RO 2^32  4 bytes max


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Posted 01 March 2018 - 09:34 PM

Well, sorry, I didn't know that I too can't name shops...

 

Only that the mods here could agree that setting up stores with the zeny cap to control market has to be stopped. The same person has been done this for days and the least players could do is to tell people about it, you're just doing more harm keeping those names at bay than letting us discuss this freely. 

 

Peace out

 

Why can't we ask ragial people to just ban such shops from the list? Apparently, they removed the cheap section "for the good of everybody". Why can't they do it for something people are ACTUALLY complaining about?


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Posted 01 March 2018 - 10:53 PM

Why can't we ask ragial people to just ban such shops from the list? Apparently, they removed the cheap section "for the good of everybody". Why can't they do it for something people are ACTUALLY complaining about?

Ragial-kun can't check if a shop can be purchased from without attempting to make a purchase - and that's not something we would want. The only sane solution I see would be adding the ability to hide vendors with a user-created block list to the site itself. Sounds like it would take a decent amount of work to implement, but it would be nice. 

 

Also gonna plug Ragnastats again because why not. Their Recently Sold section is interesting, especially right now:

http://ragnastats.com/sold?page=2

Some folks were saying GFSS weren't selling lately, I see plenty that just sold at 3/4m for [0]/[1]. 


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Posted 02 March 2018 - 12:11 AM

Ragial-kun can't check if a shop can be purchased from without attempting to make a purchase - and that's not something we would want. The only sane solution I see would be adding the ability to hide vendors with a user-created block list to the site itself. Sounds like it would take a decent amount of work to implement, but it would be nice. 

 

Also gonna plug Ragnastats again because why not. Their Recently Sold section is interesting, especially right now:

http://ragnastats.com/sold?page=2

Some folks were saying GFSS weren't selling lately, I see plenty that just sold at 3/4m for [0]/[1]. 

 

Not saying they should do it pro-actively but through reports from the community as long as people who report show proof - the same way reporting bugs/abuse/etc to GMs work. 


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Posted 02 March 2018 - 12:19 AM

Not saying they should do it pro-actively but through reports from the community as long as people who report show proof - the same way reporting bugs/abuse/etc to GMs work. 

 

They are doing it for free. GMs are being payed to do their work. I don't know but giving them much more work is too much.


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Posted 07 March 2018 - 11:57 AM

And there are tons of new accounts + chars.  :heh:

 

Damn way to headshot my idea. Could be paired with a zeny cap for level.


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Posted 07 March 2018 - 03:25 PM

Damn way to headshot my idea. Could be paired with a zeny cap for level.

 

You will see rich people buy leveling services to make a bunch of characters. It's like in real life where some rich people hire accounts to do "tax management" and pay ridiculously low taxes. 


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Posted 07 March 2018 - 10:50 PM

You will see rich people buy leveling services to make a bunch of characters.

 

No, no "rich" person ever will buy a leveling service, especially when, with a little bit of gear and know how, they can hit 99 in 2 hours. The people you see buying leveling services are under geared newbies who still think RO is hard, and are too lazy to do a bit of research on where, and how, to level.


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Posted 07 March 2018 - 11:27 PM

So if WP does not know how duping is being done on ODIN, what makes you all think it is not happening here?


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Posted 08 March 2018 - 05:41 AM

No, no "rich" person ever will buy a leveling service, especially when, with a little bit of gear and know how, they can hit 99 in 2 hours. The people you see buying leveling services are under geared newbies who still think RO is hard, and are too lazy to do a bit of research on where, and how, to level.

 

May be "rich" people I know are not that rich or they are too lazy.  :heh:


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Posted 08 March 2018 - 05:48 AM

What inflation? Those fly wings, white potions, ygdrassil leaf, awakenings etc has been the same price since the beginning of time  :gawi:


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Posted 08 March 2018 - 05:48 AM

Just buy blank cards and a 3x manual = 99 in less than 2 hours if rich. I will be right there to sell them.  :gg:

 

Inflated of course. :no1:

 

 


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Posted 08 March 2018 - 06:25 AM

Just buy blank cards and a 3x manual = 99 in less than 2 hours if rich. I will be right there to sell them.  :gg:

 

Inflated of course. :no1:

 

Hmm. I found out how to use them. Thanks.  :p_smile:


Edited by thesifer, 08 March 2018 - 06:26 AM.

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