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#51 mattmandarim

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Posted 21 October 2020 - 08:04 PM

Thanks campitor, i agree with some of the ideas and I thank you for your effort.
Also thank you to clarify to us.

But we do agree that this mechanic of 1h respawn to the only ones with it was harmfull to the server due to the lack of info about that and overpowered itens supply it droped in favor of only one guild from the last 2 months.

Also please have in mind that this quest have potential game breaking issues.
And these itens droped until today still needs to be corrected due to that.

We like this game and want to keep playing it even with a RTX 3080, and please, without all those errors that made almost every player in RoT quit others officials servers to play here, trying to restart and make it fair without Over Powered itens.

Thats the main point that made people came to play on this server, and it will drop down if one bad decision of this is made.
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Posted 21 October 2020 - 08:11 PM

Everybody knew there was something wrong with it, they just didn't knew what. It's just really hard to figure out unintended & exclusive game rules when the only way to know about them is to have exploited them before.

 

Since p2w members have been seen around selling items on rates seemingly impossible, everybody just started wondering what was the bug they were exploiting. Calling it not a bug just because it has been around for 10 years is their polite way of saying they have no control & QA over the -_-ty service that Gravity has been pushing to them and they can't fix their own mess, but they can't say anything because they can't expose the developer.

 

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But keep piling up on Godlys, exploit items and all that crap that u desperately are looking for.. It just makes it more humiliating everytime you guys run away from a GvG.


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Posted 21 October 2020 - 08:11 PM

To be clear anything any pierre boxes and their contents came directly from Kublin event  on any iRO server be it Chaos, Thor, Valkyrie, Iris, Old Chaos, Old Loki, Classic Loki, Old Old Sakray, Ymir, Poring, or Odin are not considered an exploited item. Any pierre boxes found by the GM team that do not come from this game content or any items generated by boxes that did not originate directly from this content are considered bad and will still be removed along with as the players who generated them. 

But Campitor, it  doens't matter, it still be so -_- sad to us, because they just have so many MVP's they want, so many foods they want, so many CK's and Brocca's they want. You can understand how bad it could be for people who have to wait all the times, the server content what even exists yet, because they just know about a thing what no one knows? thats the first time i heard about that, and i was trying to understand what could be done for they got so many items with just two months of Kublin and Veins Brother's quest. there's just no reason to still playing if they just got so many items, so many benefits because they are just the unique party to know about this in the whole server.


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Posted 21 October 2020 - 08:15 PM

Because 1 kublin per hr * 2 realms is a doubled spawn rate of Kublin. With the changes were making the spawns will be divided between the two realms, and be reduced but not to the point where guilds will never see him.

The point I want to make is not about Kublin's respawn, if for 1h / 2h weekly, it doesn't really matter

The point I'm trying to get to and I think that everyone involved in this Kublin Drama is:
 
- we concluded that Kublin's respawn needs to be nerfed
-1 Guild got a lot of advantage, dropped a lot of MvP items that haven't arrived in the game yet, have hundreds of +10 foods and hundreds of Bloody Branch.

But that's it, let's move on
 
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Kublin's new respawn, will it only appaer after Hoe is delivered to the dwarf?

Or he will respawn even if no one completes the quest

 

 

edit: Things just need to be clearer, this Kublin drama has been going on for weeks and we never had a clear answer from WP,It only extended because of that. Many people are new on the server and the lack of information and clarity on the part of the WP only creates all this confusion


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#55 Akeris

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Posted 21 October 2020 - 08:20 PM

From my understanding with Kublin, they were camping the heck out of it with whatever time it has everyday, while the competing group thought it was once a week until someone from the first group explained the spawn timer to them when asked. Another instance was the BBs and how they got them, they linked an old quest or something to the person(s) who asked; from what I've overheard.

 

Again, it's not iRO (or those players') responsibility to spoon feed knowledge to every single player on this game.

 

Doesn't hurt to just ask people about things either; there were a lot of things I didn't until I asked, and I've been on iRO for many years. No ones gonna start throwing information out of nowhere you know. Just saying. They're not mind readers.


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#56 ElenaGilbert

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Posted 21 October 2020 - 08:23 PM

But Campitor, it  doens't matter, it still be so -_- sad to us, because they just have so many MVP's they want, so many foods they want, so many CK's and Brocca's they want. You can understand how bad it could be for people who have to wait all the times, the server content what even exists yet, because they just know about a thing what no one knows? thats the first time i heard about that, and i was trying to understand what could be done for they got so many items with just two months of Kublin and Veins Brother's quest. there's just no reason to still playing if they just got so many items, so many benefits because they are just the unique party to know about this in the whole server.

 

 

stop crying lmao. everything u said pretty much u crying about how in the hell i never knew about this and get to do what they did? btw we knew about the respawning kublin about 6years ago. and when it was doing the same thing on this server we reported it but they made it clear to us who reported it that they will leave it unchanged. like alot of people said, its not our job to baby sit u thru quest or the discoveries we made on the servers.


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Posted 21 October 2020 - 08:24 PM

The point I want to make is not about Kublin's respawn, if for 1h / 2h weekly, it doesn't really matter

The point I'm trying to get to and I think that everyone involved in this Kublin Drama is:
 
- we concluded that Kublin's respawn needs to be nerfed
-1 Guild got a lot of advantage, dropped a lot of MvP items that haven't arrived in the game yet, have hundreds of +10 foods and hundreds of Bloody Branch.

But that's it, let's move on
 
A detail @campitor
Kublin's new respawn, will it only appaer after Hoe is delivered to the dwarf?

Or he will respawn even if no one completes the quest

 

 

edit: Things just need to be clearer, this Kublin drama has been going on for weeks and we never had a clear answer from WP,It only extended because of that. Many people are new on the server and the lack of information and clarity on the part of the WP only creates all this confusion

For Rachel the 1 hour respawn has always been based off delivering a hoe. That part won't change for either realm.


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Posted 21 October 2020 - 08:25 PM

But Campitor, it  doens't matter, it still be so * sad to us, because they just have so many MVP's they want, so many foods they want, so many CK's and Brocca's they want. You can understand how bad it could be for people who have to wait all the times, the server content what even exists yet, because they just know about a thing what no one knows? thats the first time i heard about that, and i was trying to understand what could be done for they got so many items with just two months of Kublin and Veins Brother's quest. there's just no reason to still playing if they just got so many items, so many benefits because they are just the unique party to know about this in the whole server.

That is why it is important for opportunities to be made for other guilds to access these items by making the changes in the original post. This issue should have been caught in 2009,2010,2011, etc but it was not. That is where I and those that came before failed. Right now we can only do our very best to make it as fair as possible and give all users similar opportunities to get cards and items


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Posted 21 October 2020 - 08:29 PM

stop crying lmao. everything u said pretty much u crying about how in the hell i never knew about this and get to do what they did? btw we knew about the respawning kublin about 6years ago. and when it was doing the same thing on this server we reported it but they made it clear to us who reported it that they will leave it unchanged. like alot of people said, its not our job to baby sit u thru quest or the discoveries we made on the servers.

I searched through my PMs and could only find one mention of Kublin with the line I would only be told an exploit if I actively chased that user down. Its possible it was in a deleted pm I guess. But I still have access to those as far as I can tell.. Do you know who you reported it to on the off chance? I would really like to find out where we failed.


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Posted 21 October 2020 - 08:31 PM

stop crying lmao. everything u said pretty much u crying about how in the hell i never knew about this and get to do what they did? btw we knew about the respawning kublin about 6years ago. and when it was doing the same thing on this server we reported it but they made it clear to us who reported it that they will leave it unchanged. like alot of people said, its not our job to baby sit u thru quest or the discoveries we made on the servers.

 

Please be quiet, you is one of the more toxic people who i ever played at the same server before. Don't quote me. You guys just do the  same thing even, try to have the most advantages you can get, even if this is possible, you just a poor people.


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Posted 21 October 2020 - 08:33 PM

I searched through my PMs and could only find one mention of Kublin with the line I would only be told an exploit if I actively chased that user down. Its possible it was in a deleted pm I guess. But I still have access to those as far as I can tell.. Do you know who you reported it to on the off chance? I would really like to find out where we failed.

 

check the pms by aaron


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Posted 21 October 2020 - 08:36 PM

 

I don't get free time to answer 100% of the PMs I get. It seems I have dropped the ball here and will correct it.

 

 

I would really like to find out where we failed.

 

At least you are finally starting to admit that you are failing the player base. Lets see if anything actually comes to this and things are changed for the better. Lots hope this isnt another Chaos server where you just sit back collect a check and watch a popular woe population die to a meme of pvm players begging for more OPC gears and other stuff they don't have to farm.


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Posted 21 October 2020 - 08:37 PM

That is why it is important for opportunities to be made for other guilds to access these items by making the changes in the original post. This issue should have been caught in 2009,2010,2011, etc but it was not. That is where I and those that came before failed. Right now we can only do our very best to make it as fair as possible and give all users similar opportunities to get cards and items

Sad, thats just sad.


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Posted 21 October 2020 - 08:40 PM

I searched through my PMs and could only find one mention of Kublin with the line I would only be told an exploit if I actively chased that user down. Its possible it was in a deleted pm I guess. But I still have access to those as far as I can tell.. Do you know who you reported it to on the off chance? I would really like to find out where we failed.


These players just pretend to be the good guy.
Every one here sees how toxic they are in game and at official forums.
I bet they will arrenge an excuse trying to blame your staff and not get banned in the end.

They say its legal due to have the bug on their side for over 10 years of it beeing this way.
But if it was me using that, I'm sure the same guys here defending kublin quest this way as legit would try to get some answers and would too agree that it was not fair.
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Posted 21 October 2020 - 08:41 PM

Please be quiet, you is one of the more toxic people who i ever played at the same server before. Don't quote me. You guys just do the  same thing even, try to have the most advantages you can get, even if this is possible, you just a poor people.

 

 

what do you expect? you are calling out the people who reported the bug and were able to obtain and farm items legitimately because of their knowledge towards the server. and you calling us the toxic ones? you guys posted gay porn here, posting spams, grief people in woe, dox people facebook accounts, run bots and ruin economy and you callin me the toxic ones? i had a good laugh reading your cries


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Posted 21 October 2020 - 08:45 PM

These players just pretend to be the good guy.
Every one here sees how toxic they are in game and at official forums.
I bet they will arrenge an excuse trying to blame your staff and not get banned in the end.

They say its legal due to have the bug on their side for over 10 years of it beeing this way.
But if it was me using that, I'm sure the same guys here defending kublin quest this way as legit would try to get some answers and would too agree that it was not fair.

 

we thought it was unfair too, thats why we reported it. however it was made clear to us that they will leave kublin unchanged. if you think we did not report it then you are delusional.
 


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Posted 21 October 2020 - 08:49 PM

what do you expect? you are calling out the people who reported the bug and were able to obtain and farm items legitimately because of their knowledge towards the server. and you calling us the toxic ones? you guys posted gay porn here, posting spams, grief people in woe, dox people facebook accounts, run bots and ruin economy and you callin me the toxic ones? i had a good laugh reading your cries

Don't quote me, you know about what i im talking about and we already have more than 15 reports submited talking about you guys.


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Posted 21 October 2020 - 08:50 PM

These players just pretend to be the good guy.
Every one here sees how toxic they are in game and at official forums.
I bet they will arrenge an excuse trying to blame your staff and not get banned in the end.

They say its legal due to have the bug on their side for over 10 years of it beeing this way.
But if it was me using that, I'm sure the same guys here defending kublin quest this way as legit would try to get some answers and would too agree that it was not fair.

Aaron really did report the issue in August however I did not find the source of the issue until today. There was no way for them to actively force a respawn it would just happen on its own. 


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Posted 21 October 2020 - 08:51 PM

Lets be real, the only delusional person here is campitor who seems to have missed multiple reports over years. 


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Posted 21 October 2020 - 08:56 PM

Lets be real, the only delusional person here is campitor who seems to have missed multiple reports over years. 

Honestly yes,  my team and I dropped the ball on this particular issue it seems. I wish I hadn't and quite frankly it will bother me for quite some time. So I am going to work to be better at this and take what corrective actions we can. Thats the only path forward.


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Posted 21 October 2020 - 08:57 PM

I quite liked the part where it took trolling from someone who left iRO years after their initial report for this to be figured out. 


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Posted 21 October 2020 - 09:07 PM

I can understand why people are upset.  Honestly, I can.  But at what point do people stop pointing the finger at the people with the memory of how iRO servers have worked for eternity and start leaving it directed at the people running the show?  

 

Probably best to enjoy it while it lasts or do what im doing and just woe log/play something else.

 

You probably can tell server is almost done for and it will merge to Chaos when Reborn aint toxic anymore and he's more understanding lmfao 


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Posted 21 October 2020 - 09:07 PM

Idk if this sounds like a plan

Introduce the same spawn mechanism that was available on the royal banquet wild hunt or bio5 mvp

Well they have to actively stay in the map, killing monster, to trigger the spawn.

It makes it harder for people to camp the kubin and a fair chance for all
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Posted 21 October 2020 - 09:09 PM

Honestly yes,  my team and I dropped the ball on this particular issue it seems. I wish I hadn't and quite frankly it will bother me for quite some time. So I am going to work to be better at this and take what corrective actions we can. Thats the only path forward.

 

 

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Posted 21 October 2020 - 09:11 PM

And those mistakes take half a decade, repeated reports and then a public trolling to "learn" from...

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