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#76 XianHuo

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Posted 21 October 2020 - 09:19 PM

Honestly yes,  my team and I dropped the ball on this particular issue it seems. I wish I hadn't and quite frankly it will bother me for quite some time. So I am going to work to be better at this and take what corrective actions we can. Thats the only path forward.

 

Do you want to diminish the damage? Just add cooking NPCs already then (the stat food are the most damaging item out of this whole mess, +10 to all stats is huge with the current meta).. it will take away a bit from their advantages over everybody else, and to be fair this is something that should have been added long time ago. The damage the items they farmed from all the BB is already there, and it will most likely fade away quickly as you guys put it the content that they had an early access to.


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Posted 21 October 2020 - 09:28 PM

Honestly yes,  my team and I dropped the ball on this particular issue it seems. I wish I hadn't and quite frankly it will bother me for quite some time. So I am going to work to be better at this and take what corrective actions we can. Thats the only path forward.

Thanks for the answers and keep working, everything will be ok :)


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Posted 21 October 2020 - 09:34 PM

Do you want to diminish the damage? Just add cooking NPCs already then (the stat food are the most damaging item out of this whole mess, +10 to all stats is huge with the current meta).. it will take away a bit from their advantages over everybody else, and to be fair this is something that should have been added long time ago. The damage the items they farmed from all the BB is already there, and it will most likely fade away quickly as you guys put it the content that they had an early access to.

 

Put in +10 NPC? The way they will make it up to everyone will be adding +20 food into the kafra shop lmfao. Can't miss a chance to get some money from everyone. 


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Posted 21 October 2020 - 09:38 PM

I asked my gerbils for a better plan than this. They headbutted the wall a few times and then started chewing a toilet paper tube. 

 

So yeah, go with that. It's a better plan than making it work as intended. 


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Posted 21 October 2020 - 09:45 PM

Now its clear campitor, keep up the work.
Every thing will end up fine.

And I would like to say sorry to Aaron.
You did the right thing reporting it to warpportal and they failed to give you the right way to proceed with it.

I will translate and explain wtf really happen to the ones that dont know english here.

No one would ever believe you did that aaron.
But congrats and sorry to missjudge you.
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Posted 21 October 2020 - 11:12 PM

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Posted 22 October 2020 - 01:30 AM

Just make a event to give free +10 foods and biotites, moscovites, agates for all 8D!!!!


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Posted 22 October 2020 - 01:48 AM

Giving free +10 all stats woldnt hurt ... tbh and it is fair.


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Posted 22 October 2020 - 04:25 AM

I would be okay with the VIP stat npc
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Posted 22 October 2020 - 04:41 AM

Whats a Kublin and what does it drop?  :mwahaha:  :boogie:  :hinthint:


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Posted 22 October 2020 - 05:42 AM

I don't think the spawn time should be reduced so much since it was already like this for 6x days. 

Maybe 2-3 hour spawn on Kublin in both realms would be good. 

 

1. The gear found from mvps not in game will be irrelevant soon, under a week of Endless Tower will drop more of that gear than was found in the BB's.

 

2. Add cooking NPC to help everyone make food? No reason this should not be in the game. 

> +10 stat food or VIP food npc (the npc would have to be at all woe save locations though, or added to kafra/inn menu) could be added to counter-balance the +10 food from kublin quest. 


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Posted 22 October 2020 - 06:01 AM

Finally i can agree with Aaron.


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Posted 22 October 2020 - 06:12 AM

I don't think the spawn time should be reduced so much since it was already like this for 6x days. 

Maybe 2-3 hour spawn on Kublin in both realms would be good. 

 

1. The gear found from mvps not in game will be irrelevant soon, under a week of Endless Tower will drop more of that gear than was found in the BB's.

 

2. Add cooking NPC to help everyone make food? No reason this should not be in the game. 

> +10 stat food or VIP food npc (the npc would have to be at all woe save locations though, or added to kafra/inn menu) could be added to counter-balance the +10 food from kublin quest. 

 

 

these are good suggestion than spouting nonsense on stream to get viewers


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Posted 22 October 2020 - 06:31 AM

I don't think the spawn time should be reduced so much since it was already like this for 6x days.
Maybe 2-3 hour spawn on Kublin in both realms would be good.

1. The gear found from mvps not in game will be irrelevant soon, under a week of Endless Tower will drop more of that gear than was found in the BB's.

2. Add cooking NPC to help everyone make food? No reason this should not be in the game.
> +10 stat food or VIP food npc (the npc would have to be at all woe save locations though, or added to kafra/inn menu) could be added to counter-balance the +10 food from kublin quest.


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Posted 22 October 2020 - 06:40 AM

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just adding the fact that the item’s MUST be removed if the adicional patches don’t come fast.
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Posted 22 October 2020 - 06:41 AM

 

1. The gear found from mvps not in game will be irrelevant soon, under a week of Endless Tower will drop more of that gear than was found in the BB's.

 

 

Not really, Thanatos ins't at Endless Tower and we can't mensurate how many other mvps the party already killed or foods and muscovites/agates they already got.

But i think the staff is not going to think about a solution for this or try to talk with the party, who also think thats unfair...

That default of the staff and minimization of what happened by the players who obtained this advantage ends, please.


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Posted 22 October 2020 - 06:47 AM

É isso rapaziada o campitor quer que os server morra!!

Campitor looking for close this server? looks like yes...


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Posted 22 October 2020 - 07:08 AM

Mistery solved afterall lmao

 

So let me get this @Campitor:

 

There were multiple reports, explosive forum threads, self replicating boxes and a whole lot of drama. But then alas, you just chose to write it off! Let's not investigate any of it and say that whatever abused mechanic they are talking about was ok! (that funny closed deal meme fits perfectly here now ha!).

 

But then -_- hits the fan, with videos and some guild selling tons of not supposed to be ingame items. Finally it forces the conniving staff to stop being comatose and investigate (aka watch a 3 min video). All that after a mere TWO months (whoa so fast!). Plus it is shown that the issue was already reported multiple times in the past too!

 

Many competence, such Kublin


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#94 mattmandarim

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Posted 22 October 2020 - 07:25 AM

I believe the best way to deal with all this mess is to remove all kublin quest drops and items directly obtained by its means.
I do believe too that p2w invested time, money and effort to something told by warpportal staff to be working legit, when it was not.

Best way to deal with it is remove all that and make a real estimative of how many box would be fair and give back to p2w, so they can farm all that stuff again without that abuse.

And Aaron, this makes huge difference in woe 2.0, your guild has took advantage of it and it also helps you defend and get your ecos in woe in the past 2 months.
So dont come here to say the damage of it will be irrelevant, when you spend the last 2 months with something that was not that legit.

Thanatos does not come in endless tower, Belzebub and Fallen Bishop shouldnt be on the server as well and your guild took advantage of it.
To be fair, all goodly itens that has been droped using those mvp gears to defend and conquer it should too be removed.
But thats too drastic, just correct the amount of boxes and reset it , then give it back to you.

I believe its the best way to deal with it.


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Posted 22 October 2020 - 07:25 AM

Hello,

 

 

As discovered in a recent thread there appears to have been a discovery regarding Kublin and his respawn mechanics.

 

In short since the Kublin event was introduced he has respawned 1 hour after the Hoe was turned in to the dwarf in the Rachel Realm. However in the Juno realm although the apparatus for a respawn was there but never turned on. We are preparing to change that. Kublin will start to respawn in both realms going forward. However the respawn will be on a longer timer but still a few times per day. 

 

And I thought that this quest can only be done ONCE A WEEK...


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Posted 22 October 2020 - 07:36 AM

 

1. The gear found from mvps not in game will be irrelevant soon, under a week of Endless Tower will drop more of that gear than was found in the BB's.

 

 

This is the dumbest thing you ever said in this forum, because you know this is a lie. Maybe months, not under a week, unless you know another exploit involving ET and you're planning to abuse it too.

 

You already farmed it so you don't care.

1. I already opened 40 pierre boxes by hunting it legitimately, contesting Kublin from your guild in Nidhog guild dungeon. Out of 40 boxes, I got 0 Bloody branches. So I can't even imagine how many boxes you opened to get hundreds of BBs, maybe even thousands. 
 
2. BB in ROT spawns monsters that are currently cannot be hunted in the server. (Nidhoggurs shadow and thanatos)

 

3. Pierre boxes drops valuable gemstones that are use to make level 4 weapons (agate,Muscovite,etc.) You can literally supply your whole guild with combat knives easily. Even though they don't have enchants, they're still valuable and sell for a lot.

4. The pierre boxes gives a lot of +10 food buffs, you already have advantage here since you can supply your guild with +10 food anytime, meanwhile everyone else will have to wait for warpportal to add the npcs.

 

 

Sure warpportal could be blamed here since they didn't do anything. 

 

But you should stop cleaning your asses and stop acting like you didn't abuse an unintended feature. 

 

Hello,

 

 

As discovered in a recent thread there appears to have been a discovery regarding Kublin and his respawn mechanics.

 

In short since the Kublin event was introduced he has respawned 1 hour after the Hoe was turned in to the dwarf in the Rachel Realm. However in the Juno realm although the apparatus for a respawn was there but never turned on. We are preparing to change that. Kublin will start to respawn in both realms going forward. However the respawn will be on a longer timer but still a few times per day. 

 

This can be a good and bad thing. I don't know yet, so I can't really say anything about this decision.

What I would suggest though is, give all guild leaders who participated in WoE for the last Month or 2 compensation for this so everyone is on even ground.

Since it is impossible to wipe all the items and BBs that p2w got from this bug. Maybe like 1000 or more pierre boxes  for every guild masters whos guild held a WoE 2.0 castle, although this is not as much as what p2w was able to farm during months of WoE 2.0, atleast everyone got a piece of it and have a chance of getting BBs.

 

This might be dumb but this I think is fair. It might lower the price of these items, and might hurt the economy a little, but atleast everyone got a piece of it.


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Posted 22 October 2020 - 07:39 AM

All servers

 

 

 

To be clear anything any pierre boxes that came directly from Kublin and the pierre box on any iRO server be it Chaos, Thor, Valkyrie, Iris, Old Chaos, Old Loki, Classic Loki, Old Old Sakray, Ymir, Poring, or Odin are not considered an exploited item. Any pierre boxes found by the GM team that do not come from this game content or any items generated by boxes that did not originate directly from this content are considered bad and will still be removed. 

 

You are correct that most official servers have it at once a week. However due to the history of this event and the apparent 1 hour respawn built into the script since 2009 we feel it is important to allow all guilds access to the content. Though we do agree that 1 hour is too fast in this day and age and are nerfing that a little.

 

"WE feel it is important to allow all guilds access to the content?"

 

RESPAWNING EVERY 1 HR IS NOT THE WAY TO GO...

 

THIS WILL NOT CORRECT THE CURRENT MISTAKE and MESS the server is on...

 

REMOVE THE ITEMS that should not have been on the server... prior to the release of the maps or monsters involved... 

 

That's is a better solution for the problem..

 

WITH THAT KIND OF RESPONSE YOU ARE CONDONING THE ACTION and exploit that the management or GM team should've been aware from the very beginning... 


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Posted 22 October 2020 - 07:40 AM

Mistery solved afterall lmao

 

So let me get this @Campitor:

 

There were multiple reports, explosive forum threads, self replicating boxes and a whole lot of drama. But then alas, you just chose to write it off! Let's not investigate any of it and say that whatever abused mechanic they are talking about was ok! (that funny closed deal meme fits perfectly here now ha!).

 

But then -_- hits the fan, with videos and some guild selling tons of not supposed to be ingame items. Finally it forces the conniving staff to stop being comatose and investigate (aka watch a 3 min video). All that after a mere TWO months (whoa so fast!). Plus it is shown that the issue was already reported multiple times in the past too!

 

Many competence, such Kublin

Self replicating boxes were solved within a a couple days of being reported. The monster spawn issue was a much more subtle difference that had to do with 1 line and 6 text characters being out of place on the script.

I should have pushed harder on figuring it out but it wasn't exactly an easy thing to spot until you knew what exactly was wrong.

As for past reports from before august I did a lot of searching last night from before this instance I found two where it could have been resolved that I could confirm. 1 was a vague mention of an exploit in a drama call out post against Valhalla where the content was gutted because it was a call out thread. 2 was a pm where a user demanded we chase them down before they would tell us about a vague exploit in a woe two realm. I unfortunately don't have ticket access to search for old tickets the GM team handled.

 

So yeah I am eating crow on this, I should have tried harder in August.

 


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Posted 22 October 2020 - 07:52 AM

I removed several posts about botting from both guilds. Please stay on topic regarding Kublin.


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Posted 22 October 2020 - 07:55 AM

I removed several posts about botting from both guilds. Please stay on topic regarding Kublin.

Whats the scoop on 10/22 maintainence this week? =o


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