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#26 TrueMaster

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Posted 06 June 2011 - 12:44 PM

My sig is more a joke than anything else personally. It's not to be part of a bandwagon, no. I love the show, I love the toys, I've been collecting them since I was a little kid. My friend wanted to get over her art block so she made me a gift. I feel kind of sad that someone gets so offended over seeing ponies everywhere. It's like people getting offended over Santa Claus. Something funny and whimsical is around to make people happy and people just get mad. :waddle:

All the poniers are treating my comments as a direct attack upon them when it was more of just a direct observation on the bandwagon fallacy.

Emotional appeals are also a fallacy and a not a real technical sense of reasoning. The analogy you used is also not complete.
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Posted 06 June 2011 - 12:47 PM

All the poniers are treating my comments as a direct attack upon them when it was more of just a direct observation on the bandwagon fallacy.

Emotional appeals are also a fallacy and a not a real technical sense of reasoning. The analogy you used is also not complete.


Wasn't treating it as a direct attack...more, giving an example of why. Why can't sentimentality be my reason for liking the ponies?

And the reasoning is the same. "I don't like seeing Santa Claus everywhere so nobody should display a Santa Claus." Just replace Santa with ponies.

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Posted 06 June 2011 - 12:57 PM

Wasn't treating it as a direct attack...more, giving an example of why. Why can't sentimentality be my reason for liking the ponies?

And the reasoning is the same. "I don't like seeing Santa Claus everywhere so nobody should display a Santa Claus." Just replace Santa with ponies.

You can like them because of sentimentality but it is no longer an argument but that reason just makes you bias because it is undoubtedly unchangeable.
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Posted 06 June 2011 - 01:01 PM

You can like them because of sentimentality but it is no longer an argument but that reason just makes you bias because it is undoubtedly unchangeable.


Alrighty then~ You want more reasons to like the ponies?

I direct you to...TVCrack:

http://tvtropes.org/...iendshipIsMagic

This sums it up better than anyone on these forums could, I think.
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Posted 06 June 2011 - 01:44 PM

I seriously never expect to warportal having a pony thread too, seriously they are everywhere.
Come on, they are popular for some reason right?
The animation is cute, the storyline is random and awsome, the characters are good well made, catchy songs and make the watcher fell better.
You guys should try out watching it, is worth the time, and of course worth sanity.
If you didnt like it, then derp and deal with it!

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Posted 06 June 2011 - 02:45 PM

Sentimentality doesn't completely erase bias.

A few years ago, My Little Pony released new designs for the toys. The ponies looked taller, more slender, and basically just seemed like the unholy lovechild of a Bratz doll and a Barbie Dream Horse. Did young adults who enjoyed the original show and toys when they were young like these? Not really. I think they still have these, but it seems like they're phasing them out in favor of a more simplistic and cute design.

However, that being said, a lot of the fans who grew up watching the original show do enjoy Friendship is Magic, or they at least don't see it as a complete bastardization.

Quality and intent has more to do with it than an biased fanbase. It's fine for people to not like the show, or even the fandom that sprung up from it, but don't try to belittle the fans by trying to insinuate that they can't help but like it. That isn't the case at all.
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Posted 06 June 2011 - 04:11 PM

There's not a lot of sentimentality in the show as a lot of the old ponies had to be shuffled about, but I guess the sentimentality is in with the IP rather.

But yeah, the show is ridiculously cute and as an adult, I can easily enjoy the show which isn't true for most of today's children's cartoons. And the fanbase is hillarious. I never saw Celestia as a troll, but wow, she outtrolls even the best trolls on these forums.

About the only downside is that I'm being exposed to more furry porn than I'm comfortable seeing.

But there's enough cute stuff like this to erase my mind of even some of the worst stuff: Posted Image
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Posted 06 June 2011 - 04:39 PM

Sentimentality doesn't completely erase bias.

A few years ago, My Little Pony released new designs for the toys. The ponies looked taller, more slender, and basically just seemed like the unholy lovechild of a Bratz doll and a Barbie Dream Horse. Did young adults who enjoyed the original show and toys when they were young like these? Not really. I think they still have these, but it seems like they're phasing them out in favor of a more simplistic and cute design.

However, that being said, a lot of the fans who grew up watching the original show do enjoy Friendship is Magic, or they at least don't see it as a complete bastardization.

Quality and intent has more to do with it than an biased fanbase. It's fine for people to not like the show, or even the fandom that sprung up from it, but don't try to belittle the fans by trying to insinuate that they can't help but like it. That isn't the case at all.


What?

What i am really trying to say is they cant argue to anyone on whether or not to like it because they like it already.

What ever happened to the conversational post rather than a ramble of words that could be said in one sentence.
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Posted 06 June 2011 - 05:18 PM

Sorry for being articulate, bb.
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Posted 06 June 2011 - 06:35 PM

We're not allowed to defend the show if it was something we liked in the first place?

I, for one, actually went into the show being very skeptical of it. Actually, I think there are plenty of Pony-fans that were similarly surprised at how good the show is.

Personally, I think it's a breath of fresh air from the girl-oriented show where the cast talks about nothing but "omg boyz!" I also find it reminiscent of older cartoons, like Dexter's Lab or Foster's Home (well, Faust IS Craig McCracken's wife).
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Posted 06 June 2011 - 06:38 PM

I have never seen this show and I don't even have any idea as to what channel or time it is on.
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Posted 06 June 2011 - 06:49 PM

I watched a few episodes on youtube, not gonna lie, the show is quite entertaining, however I just don't like the way these pictures are everywere I go, not just this forum...

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Posted 06 June 2011 - 06:59 PM

I have never seen this show and I don't even have any idea as to what channel or time it is on.


The Hub, but it's on Youtube.
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Posted 06 June 2011 - 07:25 PM

We're not allowed to defend the show if it was something we liked in the first place?

No you can defend it but its just not really valid in an argument.

But, I am illogical anyways because I am trying to be scholarly logical in a forum.
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Posted 06 June 2011 - 07:26 PM

This probably the first time an off Topic Thread dint get mowed to Off Topic Section. Probably should be mowed by now Since it not even related to RO
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Posted 06 June 2011 - 08:18 PM

Too late. Mods woke up and moved it.
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Posted 06 June 2011 - 09:20 PM

No you can defend it but its just not really valid in an argument.

But, I am illogical anyways because I am trying to be scholarly logical in a forum.


I see. Even though valid arguments have been given apart from it.

But whatever, the point has been made. Everyone is happy. <3
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Posted 07 June 2011 - 03:45 AM

My little Pony - Friendship is Magic.
It's really quite simple. Nobody forces you to like it, nobody forces you to hate it. I myself don't like Naruto in people's avatar/sig, but that is their choice and not mine. It is the internet, stuff like that happens every, single, day.
If you like cartoons/animated shows, I'd assume this show is for you, and if you also watched the earlier generations of MLP as a kid, you will probably like it very much. If you don't like cartoons and hate MLP in general... Even then you COULD give it a chance. But in the end nobody forces you to do anything.
It's just funny that people who make such a 'clearly meant to troll' post are actually appalled by the reactions (I'm talking to you OP). And they think we are weird?

Ok, tl;dr ahead (you don't have to click it... But studies have shown that buttons ARE tempting... Hmm):
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Of course you may not agree with all this, but in the end one has to realize that it is not a small contingent of trolls trying to force it on you, it's often people who REALLY like the show. Of course there are some who are just trolling, every level of society has it's rotten apples you know... Anyway, I may have posted one or two real 100% trollposts containing ponies (but never any 'profanity'), just because it's fun. I think I'm allowed to after years of posting in tech support... But I like the show. And not afraid of saying so. So whether others like it or not, I'll show that in my avatar/signature!
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Posted 07 June 2011 - 06:48 AM

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Posted 07 June 2011 - 06:50 AM

you know what they say..

fail at real life, win at internetz!
just another meme has born

Edited by vinxer, 07 June 2011 - 06:50 AM.

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Posted 07 June 2011 - 08:33 AM

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Posted 08 June 2011 - 02:18 AM

Most probably why people having bias on the New MLP ep because of the profanity and vulgar language that are being use with MLP's ponies picture that some retard keep using it to troll all over the web

BTW :I was trying to post and example ITS but it seen our warpportal staff had clean all those profanity picture that keep popping up around the forum
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Posted 08 June 2011 - 12:41 PM

Most probably why people having bias on the New MLP ep because of the profanity and vulgar language that are being use with MLP's ponies picture that some retard keep using it to troll all over the web

BTW :I was trying to post and example ITS but it seen our warpportal staff had clean all those profanity picture that keep popping up around the forum

Before this thread I was somewhat unfamilair with the term profanity (I thought it only meant sacrilige/blasphemy, but I guess any swearing/gestures/violence also falls within the term?? I stil don't know any pictures that would fall under that terminology, or maybe I somehow manage to avoid them OR they aren;t profanity in my own eyes. I know I have posted two pictures that could be called profanity (I guess???), one having the word sh** in it and the other the word stupid, twice! Would they be profanity? Those were never meant to really offend, or wouldn't be to me, and they are still on the forums in their original thread. I'm just confused about the whole thing now. Where does the boundary from funny/profanity lie? (since it's such a broad term, I'm quite confused)
But in any case I guess it's good to hear the WP staff is actully clearing the forums of those kind of things. :D

And now, just because I can, more pony (non profanity ofc... Or I hope so anyway... If anyone feels offendended... PM me and I'll remove this heinous crime against ponydom! :D):
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Posted 08 June 2011 - 05:02 PM

Sh-- is considered profanity.
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Posted 09 June 2011 - 03:02 AM

Dear Princess Celestia,


As you know my continous studies of the warpportal forums have lead me to discover many things. Today I have learned a new word! Profanity! It is everything from the smallest of swears to the most horrible and violent jokes.
From now on I will no longer post anything that contains a word that I do not consider a 'real' swear, but others could. I don't want to hurt their feelings with such minor things...

Luckily there are enough other options to post. So I am not worried.


Your faithful student,

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