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#101 Kieri

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Posted 04 March 2014 - 03:37 PM

What ever hater. :p_love:

Someone pointing out your mistakes doesn't mean they're hating.


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Posted 04 March 2014 - 03:37 PM

By the Way,

 

 

For those that do not know nor remember,

 

Jaye used to Main a Genetic, probably still does if she still plays .

 

She doesn't want any competition from Suras on an MVP and never did, she was and always has been on of the biggest advocates against Suras.


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Posted 04 March 2014 - 03:39 PM

Someone pointing out your mistakes doesn't mean they're hating.

 

When I remember the threads that Jaye sponsored against the Sura, and the reasons I blocked her posts in the first place.

 

I think I know what and why she is posting.

 

There is history between her and the Sura threads.


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Posted 04 March 2014 - 03:40 PM

Doesn't change the fact she is right that it was purely kRO's Balance patch it wasn't due to an iRO issue. The two events are unlinked.


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Posted 04 March 2014 - 03:40 PM

I also think it's the fact that you can pretty much monk class can just fist+berry+repeat that's why it has to have a cooldown. The raffled just gives a lot of seeds and berries to those who spent there.

I honestly dislike custom iro changes. Like I said. Those people who want changes that bad should just stick to private server where pretty much everything is possible... Or play pRO lol
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Posted 04 March 2014 - 03:41 PM

so.... does kro have cd for gfist??


yes
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Posted 04 March 2014 - 03:42 PM

in pvp, it is pretty balanced except few classes.(in terms of uselessness)

but mvp....?

gene>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>sura/ranger/rg>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>everything else>warlock 


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Posted 04 March 2014 - 03:43 PM

By the Way,


For those that do not know nor remember,

Jaye used to Main a Genetic, probably still does if she still plays .

She doesn't want any competition from Suras on an MVP and never did, she was and always has been on of the biggest advocates against Suras.


Say what? I rarely mvped, I am not competitive. I am just a knowledge sponge that likes to read kro posts. Additionally I have a habbit of making persuasive arguements when I know someone has information on a subject I can disprove.
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Posted 04 March 2014 - 03:45 PM

I honestly dislike custom iro changes.


This is how I feel as well.
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Posted 04 March 2014 - 03:45 PM

Doesn't change the fact she is right that it was purely kRO's Balance patch it wasn't due to an iRO issue. The two events are unlinked.

 

 

 

kRO made a lot these changes based on suggestions by the iRO community.

 

http://forums.warppo...patch-feedback/


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Posted 04 March 2014 - 03:47 PM

kRO made a lot these changes based on suggestions by the iRO community.

http://forums.warppo...patch-feedback/


You don't know why they made the decisions they do. They generally ignore our feedback from my understanding.
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Posted 04 March 2014 - 03:48 PM

I'd like to point out this thread is not going to change anything because kRO never listens to a word of what we say in terms of balance issues. It is what it is, regardless of your stance in the argument, you will be forced to live with it until kRO decides to reroll again, so you're wasting your time outside of debating with each other for fun...

/wah

 

I agree,

 

But I figured it was worth a try.

 

Not asking yields nothing.

 

At least by asking They can say no, but there is a chance they say yes.


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Posted 04 March 2014 - 03:49 PM

I think most of their momentum is actually a result of feedback from jRO staff.
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Posted 04 March 2014 - 03:50 PM

No clue.


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Posted 04 March 2014 - 03:53 PM

kRO made a lot these changes based on suggestions by the iRO community.

 

http://forums.warppo...patch-feedback/

It's more than likely not based on when the iRO community said back, kRO generally won't implement a chance unless it affects them on their main server too or jRO which is now basically the main server. I can understand why you might think it was this way but kRO had the cooldown on gfist for a while after renewal for reasons they decided which were as I probably said earlier in the thread, it's a second class non trans skill which requires no items to be made to use it and can one shot most MVP's, before the CD you could quite literally Fist Seed/Berry, Fist repeat which I'm sure you know anyways but just reminding you. 


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Posted 04 March 2014 - 03:54 PM

By the way Jaye,

 

I like how you ignore the thread I posted which refers to and has posts by Hiem about how our suggestions were used for the Balance.

 

It shows all the info about People hating on Suras and the complications involved when renewal first hit.


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Posted 04 March 2014 - 03:56 PM

It's more than likely not based on when the iRO community said back, kRO generally won't implement a chance unless it affects them on their main server too or jRO which is now basically the main server. I can understand why you might think it was this way but kRO had the cooldown on gfist for a while after renewal for reasons they decided which were as I probably said earlier in the thread, it's a second class non trans skill which requires no items to be made to use it and can one shot most MVP's, before the CD you could quite literally Fist Seed/Berry, Fist repeat which I'm sure you know anyways but just reminding you. 

 

I have Mained a SUra since renewal hit.

 

I remember quite clearly all the threads about Nerf Sura quite clearly because I was one of the main people defending the character I play.

 

Yes they used data from jRO as well, but Heim clearly stated that they used information provided by Us as well.


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Posted 04 March 2014 - 04:00 PM

Anyways,

 

We are getting way off topic.

 

I really do not care if pvp/woe is removed, I would like that, but that is not my focus.

 

I would simply like to be able to compete with a Genetic for an MVP again.


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Posted 04 March 2014 - 04:01 PM

100% Agree with this!!


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Posted 04 March 2014 - 04:02 PM

I can't see where he says that, mind posting it. I can see what else he posted and that doesn't mean that kRO took our suggestions and implemented them.


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Posted 04 March 2014 - 04:09 PM

The question is how much and what did they consider, and how seriously did they take it?

My faith in them is not high lol :/ I feel like any feedback from iRO is glossed over and barely recognized. Perhaps my morale is just low, but I think a lot of us feel this way, am I right? Lack of response from repeated questions from GMs frustrates the hell out of me, half the time I don't even think they are listening. There was a time when heim hadn't logged on forums for months, even. >.<

 

Part of that is our fault as a community.

 

He probably grows tired of our bickering back and forth.

 

Like take this thread.

 

I didn't ask for it to be removed in PVP/WOE, because I knew certain people would say look at the big Guild leader QQ.

 

Also because I could care less.

 

The real problem that I have heard from many people, is that the only class that can MVP now is Genetic.

 

Nothing else can compete.

 

But instead of allowing the thread to work, and get legit feedback people who just flat out hate me, come and start drama.

 

They plan on derailing and discouraging the threads productivity.

 

One of them has hated Suras since renewal hit, Jaye.

 

The other hates me, Keiri.

 

If I were Heim I would ignore us too.


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Posted 04 March 2014 - 04:14 PM

So pointing out your mistakes and confronting your opinion is hating now, learn something new everyday :hmm:

You should really get out of that believe that when people confront you it's "hating" just because they have a different opinion than you and have different/greater knowledge on a subject than yourself.


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Posted 04 March 2014 - 04:15 PM

I always thought that if you want to compete on mvping against genes, then make a gene?
It's also the time that you put into it.
I seriously wake up early in the morning sometimes just to MVP. Because that's usually when I get to have MVP on my own. If anything i just think that one person can't camp a MVP 24/7. Like to have it for them everytime it spawns. But either way. If its competition against a gene then make a gene.
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Posted 04 March 2014 - 04:16 PM

I always thought that if you want to compete on mvping against genes, then make a gene?
It's also the time that you put into it.
I seriously wake up early in the morning sometimes just to MVP. Because that's usually when I get to have MVP on my own. If anything i just think that one person can't camp a MVP 24/7. Like to have it for them everytime it spawns. But either way. If its competition against a gene then make a gene.

Then what r other classes for? Just so ppl can sit there and afk like my warlock?
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Posted 04 March 2014 - 04:17 PM

You know I find it hard for us to disagree on everything I post,

 

So the impression I get from you is that every time I post or make a thread, you find a way to post something to spur a disagreement.

 

Now I feel this way, due to the drama between our guilds.

 

Which I have said repeatedly I wish you would just drop.

 

If you don't hate, then prove me wrong.

 

Back me up on something now and again.

 

Because I really find it hard to believe you truly disagree with me on everything I post.


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