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#26 EnderW

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Posted 24 August 2011 - 11:39 PM

It's always better to fix balance issues by adding things rather than taking them away

someone on the dev team needs to learn this.
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#27 Iiris

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Posted 24 August 2011 - 11:40 PM

I've already lost 90% of my old DS friends in the last couple of weeks to other games. Wonder how many will be left after this week is out?

Same thing was happened to me when Professor patch came out. This changing really gives me a push to join them on the other games. Good job!
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Posted 24 August 2011 - 11:43 PM

Take a deep breath, i understand youre a little shaken by the news, but there are dozens of "bugs" throughout the game, and many of them have already been submitted to the Devs. When or how they fix these issues is up to the Devs, not me. I'm just a messenger.


i would like to point out to hastur that the saying is not to shoot the messenger...that leaves a wide WIDE world of other fun things we can do :3

i agree that that so called compensation is paltry at best. i agree with ender that 5w coins + 1 soul box would be far more reasonable.

here are the things that we need to take into consideration:

  • first off, game companies pull crap like this all the time... oh look a big shiney new thing! oh by the way you are loosing this and these bajillion things are getting nerfed!
    if you had not noticed that's how thq worked...that's how gravity works...
    they pull a wth and give you a shiny as a distraction so you rage less.
  • second off, we are fortunate that that are offering ANY compensation...yeah it sucks...BIG time...but they are "trying" to be nice...i suppose...

assuming hastur's messenger powers extend in BOTH directions, it would be very nice of him to point out our displeasure to someone that CAN do something about it and will bother to LISTEN AND ACT!

EDIT: here's a crazy thought...if gravity is going to nerf one of the more useful cs sets in the game...
why not remove the binding of the "special" sets.
the stats on the guardian sets are nice and all, but the biggest advantage of these sets was that they didn't bind on equip. that, imo, would at least HELP.


Edited by Bhreemon, 25 August 2011 - 12:01 AM.

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#29 Endbringer

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Posted 25 August 2011 - 12:17 AM

Such delicious tears.
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Posted 25 August 2011 - 01:29 AM

Such delicious tears.

NOMNOMNOMNOMNOMNOMNOMNOMNOMNOMNOM
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Posted 25 August 2011 - 01:31 AM

Please try to remain on topic concerning the Guardian set change in this thread. I've made a new thread for discussing the Aim Rate on accessories change so that you may provide feedback on that issue there. This will make it easier for the Warp Portal staff to sort through your feedback.

Thanks!

Edited by Rimmy, 25 August 2011 - 01:33 AM.

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Posted 25 August 2011 - 01:36 AM

With the amount people have put into this, the compensation seems like a slap in the face. Maybe let people exchange them (and keep the stats) for another IM clothing piece.

I don't know whether to be happy with the other changes or pissed the-_- off at this one, I really don't.
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Posted 25 August 2011 - 02:29 AM

Just sayin. If you'd asked Hastur or Aramis about this they've been saying it was a bug and not supposed to happen for months now.
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Posted 25 August 2011 - 02:30 AM

I have an idea.

let's all file a lawsuit for damages against the warp portal.

And migrated to other serves.

Where we can have our items and still sell IM.

Edited by suporte64, 25 August 2011 - 02:51 AM.

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Posted 25 August 2011 - 02:35 AM

I have an idea, let's all file a lawsuit for damages against the warp portal.
And migrated to other serves.

Where we can have our items and still sell IM.

How about you stop posting.
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#36 suporte64

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Posted 25 August 2011 - 02:39 AM

How about you stop posting.

No
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Posted 25 August 2011 - 02:41 AM

No Ok


Yay!

What exactly were the stats of these two sets in THQ?
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Posted 25 August 2011 - 02:42 AM

Yay!

What exactly were the stats of these two sets in THQ?


+10 to each stat and 1800hp as final bonus. as a set bonus ofc.

or something like that.

and now the new sets>guardian so those people can shut up.

Edited by StormHaven, 25 August 2011 - 02:43 AM.

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Posted 25 August 2011 - 02:44 AM

This is very unfair.

I want all my money vout almost take my guardian.
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Posted 25 August 2011 - 02:48 AM

This is very unfair.

I want all my money vout almost take my guardian.


That may be the case, but just so you know, you're not the only one facing that problem, and I doubt they can actually change the stats back to what they were. You're gonna have to stick with the current compensation for now. This thread was made to discuss the change, and QQ'ing about it won't help.
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Posted 25 August 2011 - 02:54 AM

rather than outright remove the stats from the guardian sets why not just nerf them a little so that they are in line with the special grade IM sets?

for example the fire shoe has 10% move speed on it and so do most of the IM shoes so just remove the other bonus stats the fire shoe has?
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Posted 25 August 2011 - 03:00 AM

Same thing was happened to me when Professor patch came out. This changing really gives me a push to join them on the other games. Good job!


I also lost 99% of my friends here in the game.
Most had been playing other games or out to other serves.
Each week that passes I see the increasingly serves empty.

I think with the removal of the guardian will be the server ...

Full of flies.
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Posted 25 August 2011 - 03:01 AM

My.. movement speeed.. =( just change all the stats to 10% movement speed!

But I think its sucks that people spent thousands and thousands of randomizers and insurances on these guardian sets, and they're getting back like 5 dollars worth of cash items.
Biggest scam in dragonica/dragon saga history!

Edited by Thuy, 25 August 2011 - 03:02 AM.

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Posted 25 August 2011 - 03:05 AM

:blaugh: What
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Posted 25 August 2011 - 03:21 AM

all this and blame the Big Pig and Rebellion.

First Big pig because bugol cash items.

According to Rebellion by you helped him with the items of Prof ...

When the Big Pig was.

Guardian Water Shoes

+22 Agi
Evade Rate +14%
Health +28
+24 Strength

GM was reported to Oramus and he did nothing to try to fix the bug and now wants to punish all because of an error and it very unfair of them.
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Posted 25 August 2011 - 03:25 AM

We've called it a bug since we found out these changes were made without our knowledge, these cahnges were never our intention and caused major imbalances ingame. Unforutantely its taken this long for Gravity Games to give us a fix, as they were working on more major issues.







Why weren't we informed about this "bug" when it was reported to be fixed? A heads up that there would be a possibility of a change or correction would have saved everyone of some grief.

Edited by akaotik, 25 August 2011 - 03:30 AM.

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Posted 25 August 2011 - 03:27 AM

all this and blame the Big Pig and Rebellion.

First Big pig because bugol cash items.

According to Rebellion by you helped him with the items of Prof ...

When the Big Pig was.

Guardian Water Shoes

+22 Agi
Evade Rate +14%
Health +28
+24 Strength

GM was reported to Oramus and he did nothing to try to fix the bug and now wants to punish all because of an error and it very unfair of them.


Nothing of bigpig's is a bug it's just that the system was later changed and yes our guild works together to help each other..shocking...guess what? we're still working together and helping each other that was how the professions system was made to be used.
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Posted 25 August 2011 - 03:37 AM

Nothing of bigpig's is a bug it's just that the system was later changed and yes our guild works together to help each other..shocking...guess what? we're still working together and helping each other that was how the professions system was made to be used.


Big big that when he got the upgrade bug of professions to give because he saw in the Korean server and he also knew that the bug was fixed but later.
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Posted 25 August 2011 - 03:49 AM

Big big that when he got the upgrade bug of professions to give because he saw in the Korean server and he also knew that the bug was fixed but later.


It was not a bug. at first you could shift stats down with the soul shift system then they changed it

not a bug just a change.
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Posted 25 August 2011 - 03:50 AM

Really disappointing don't even know how to put it in words.
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